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19 March 2016 @ 11:33 am
Daredevil Season 2: Quickfire Review  
I managed to finish the 2nd season of Daredevil. Granted, I skipped some action sequences when they went on too long but I'm usually someone who watches stuff for character rather than action. Anyway, below the cut are spoilers that are just some disjointed observations/thoughts.

1) The season had a distinct 2 part feel for me with the first half being about the Punisher and the 2nd focusing in on Elektra. While the Punisher didn't get dropped by any means, the role he played in the show shifted a lot after Elektra came on the scene and helped Matt set his civilian life on fire.

2) Oh, Matt Murdock. The only thing that saved me from completely dumping this show and him after a certain point was the fact that FINALLY Karen and Foggy started calling him on his bullshit with little mercy. I liked that as much as Karen and Foggy shouted at him, they were true adults when they had to deal with Matt later and were just more...removed.

3) Let's start with Karen. The whole Matt/Karen thing lasted about two episodes before it died a choked death (maybe). It was really bad timing that just as the two of them started down that road was literally when Elektra popped back up. I was so with Karen that she deserved a truthful answer and no one was giving it to her and finally she just became fed up. I liked that she didn't give Matt a chance to explain anything at the courthouse and later on rejected his offer of protection because he no longer has a right to say anything about what she's doing. Granted, he got to save her anyway as Daredevil but still.

4) And now, RIP Nelson & Murdock. So, all of last season and most of this season really, I wanted Foggy to call it quits and find better friends. However, I was still sad when he actually did it. Although, I think even as he confronted Matt about shutting down their practice, he was willing to try and work on their friendship until Matt kind of detonated the entire thing and encouraged Foggy to move on. And even then, I think Foggy might have made some gesture similar to what he did last season of seeking Matt out at the boxing place if it hadn't been for Matt never coming to see him at the hospital. To me that was kind of Foggy's turning point when he realized he couldn't count on Matt for much, professional or otherwise. Their last scene together in their empty offices felt like the literal last chance for some kind of movement toward reconciliation but it didn't happen. Mainly because Matt needed Foggy to essentially make the first move again and Foggy didn't because he couldn't keep being the one to try first anymore. His calm delivery of how he was relieved when Matt didn't try to convince him to give it all another shot felt honest and sad in a deep bruise kind of way. And I'm going to guess by the look on Matt's face that he heard Foggy's heartbeat and knew it was't a lie. I'd like to think that their friendship can be salvaged but clearly both of them need to be slightly different people before that can happen. With that in mind...

5) I liked that this season we were reminded of why Foggy got his law degree at Columbia. He's actually a really good lawyer. It was nice to see him display that and finally grow into his confidence that he's good at his job and has more to offer than being someone's support system. I'm hoping he'll make an appearance in Jessica Jones now that he's over at Hogarth's office. It also feels necessary that Foggy be his own person for awhile. Kind of the way I think Matt needs to experience not having Foggy around to actually evaluate if he values having Foggy, specifically, in his life. Although, I'm going to guess the reason for Nelson & Murdock being reunited will largely be due to Fisk trying to murder Foggy and Matt trying to stop that in his usual blundering way.

6) Claire was the brilliant voice of reason this season. Her laying out to Matt what he's doing with this One Man Alone bullshit was great because it wasn't fueled by anger or any personal stake. She just called it as she saw it. For one flickering moment I thought maybe she had made some headway with him on the rooftop and I actually felt my last bit of goodwill toward Matt as he is now snap when he decided to stay on the roof rather than go downstairs with her to be a human being and visit Foggy. Claire is a nice example of self care, at least in this universe. She's removing herself now completely from this situation with Matt and his vortex of violence by quitting and moving on. Godspeed, Claire. I hope she'll somehow be around in future seasons of Marvel shows, but I want to believe she'd do it on her terms.

7) Elektra delivered my favorite line of the show: "You can't mask that ass." Indeed, not. Anyway, I enjoyed the flashbacks with her and Matt as it demonstrated that Matt has always been problematic. Even before he did this vigilante stuff. Elektra herself felt like a compelling character that didn't get her full moment in the sun because her character was used to further Matt's dilemmas which I get since the show is about him, not her. I was disappointed for about 10 minutes that they'd killed her off but of course this Marvel so...see you soon, Elektra?

8) Frank Castle aka the Punisher was great. The acting was great, what he pulled from other characters was great. And his unexpected chemistry with Karen was great. I don't know if I ship them but their scenes were some of the best for me. Although, I found myself laughing at the absurdity of the Punisher giving Karen life advice in a cafe when he inquired about her and Matt. I mean...what he said made sense but at the same time I did not want Karen taking relationship tips from him. Karen, go with your gut. Do not re-engage with Matt "My Life Is a Tire Fire" Murdock. But...

9) Matt does finally tell her the truth. Sadly, we'll have to wait until season 3 (if there is one) for any kind of reaction from her other than shock. I felt a bit mixed about this reveal. On one hand, Matt finally did the right thing but it came so late in the game that I no longer know if it's the right thing. I also didn't know why he was telling her. Is it because Elektra is gone and so he's back to her or he still feels like on some level he needs an anchor? I really don't want him to go through with her what basically happened with Foggy that she's put in a position to worry nonstop about him but can't do anything because MATT WON'T LISTEN. Although now that she knows, maybe she can start a support group with her, Claire and Foggy.

10) Marci!! I'm glad she was in this season. Although, her hospital scene with Foggy kind of ruined my oneshot that I was writing. The show actually did the scenario I was writing about and now I feel like I need to redo it to fit the canon. Why? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY MADE MATT A BETTER FRIEND IN MY STORY. I was so naive.
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on March 19th, 2016 11:31 pm (UTC)
I am so disappointed in Matt, and I stopped watching the show halfway through s1! I'm in this ridiculous position where I care about Karen and Foggy and Claire, but I can't watch Matt and I can't handle the mayhem on this show. So I read everything you just wrote about a season I haven't watched and won't. Now I want to know why Foggy is in the hospital! I'll have to ask Brilliant Husband at some point after he has watched, but since he'll watch when I'm not around, there might be a lot of, "So how's Foggy doing?" "What's Foggy up to these days?" as I try to figure out where he is in the season without spoiling him.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on March 19th, 2016 11:47 pm (UTC)
Now I want to know why Foggy is in the hospital!

I can just tell you if you'd rather spare Brilliant Husband any potential spoilers.

I could also do an entire rundown of just Foggy's story for season 2 because he had other things happen along the way because I'm pretty sure I watched all of his scenes even as I skipped some action scenes.
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on March 20th, 2016 11:15 pm (UTC)
If you don't mind, I'd like to know! I'm most attached to Foggy of anyone on the show, which is weird, because I didn't like him at first, and I only had a few episodes to grow out of that initial dislike before someone impaled himself on a spike and I said, "I'm never watching this show again."
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on March 21st, 2016 01:11 am (UTC)
If you liked what you saw of Foggy in s1, you would have loved him in s2. He has some truly golden moments as both a friend and later as a lawyer. To give a quick rundown leading up to Foggy being hospitalized (this might help frame just how low Matt falls as a human):

The first half of the season is Foggy basically panicking every time Matt is either missing or not answering his phone because Foggy's assuming the worst. All of this kind of falls on deaf ears but Foggy's trying to sort of power through it. And then at one point, Nelson & Murdock end up becoming the defense attorneys to the Punisher when the latter gets caught.

Foggy doesn't want to but Matt and Karen do for reasons. Foggy is certain if they take on this case it'll be career suicide because 1) they're defending a known killer and 2) the DA who wants the Punisher buried will make certain Nelson & Murdock as a firm will be buried too. But Matt and Karen restate their reasons so they get on board.

Unfortunately, around this time Elektra shows up and Matt being lousy with priorities doesn't spend any time on the Punisher case so it's left to Foggy and Karen to literally do everything. The only thing Foggy gets out of this nightmare is that he does learn he can be a fantastic lawyer without Matt and can think very well on his feet. But it all comes to naught since the two times Matt gets involved with this case in court, it cinches it so that they lose.

Granted, it actually wasn't Matt's fault that witnesses got tampered and such but by this time the stress of the whole thing finally gets Foggy and they have a couple of blowouts at the courthouse with Foggy stating that Matt ruined everything. Karen agrees. For different reasons but SHE SO AGREES.

Later Foggy visits Matt to talk about temporarily closing their firm while they figure things out. Matt being the champion that he is, suggests that they close it all down for good and Foggy move on with his life. He can pass that message along to Karen as well. Foggy just sort of tiredly agrees because what really is there left.

Soon after that, they along with Karen are called into the DA's office for reasons (it's a long story). During the meeting there is a shootout and Foggy gets a bullet in the shoulder. He's fine in that he's conscious and talking right after but you know, it's a bullet in his body so it's hospital time.

Matt exchanges some quick words with Foggy by the ambulance (mostly more arguments about to Daredevil or not) before taking off despite Foggy's protests. Because Matt Murdock is still Matt Murdock. EVEN THEN, Foggy entertains some sad hope that Matt might visit him which doesn't happen. The closest Matt gets is to hang out on the roof of the hospital and listen in on Foggy watching TV. Claire calls complete bullshit on this.

So that's basically Foggy at the hospital. Once he gets out, he and Matt see each other in person one last time when Foggy packs up some stuff at their old offices. Their conversation is actually pretty civil and I got the feeling that Foggy isn't angry anymore so much as a little sad and finally accepting that Matt isn't who he wanted him to be (a human capable of being friends).

The most telling part of their entire conversation was Matt asking if Foggy wanted Matt to convince him that they should give Nelson & Murdock another shot and Foggy saying he did but was relieved when Matt didn't because now they can finally be done. It wasn't even mean (because Foggy is never mean) it was just the truth which might have been the most awful part about it.

So with the way things stand, I'm really hoping that if they reconcile it'll be because both of them are slightly different people (mostly Matt). I'm also hoping that Foggy might appear in Jessica Jones since he's now at Hogarth's firm with Marci (who helped him land the job!).

Edited at 2016-03-21 01:14 am (UTC)
aelfgyfu_mead: brilliantaelfgyfu_mead on March 21st, 2016 02:09 am (UTC)
Thanks! I miss Foggy. If I could just watch The Foggy Show, I would, but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense without the mayhem, and it's just a little much for me to handle.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on March 21st, 2016 02:21 am (UTC)
If I could just watch The Foggy Show, I would, but it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense without the mayhem,

I kind of want this show to be about Foggy, Karen, Claire and Marci. If they could be the central figures the show would be great. I'd even take Frank Castle aka the Punisher. Actually, if the Punisher gets his own show then Foggy, Karen, Claire and Marci can just join that. Sure, Castle murders people but let me tell you how much more likable he is because he owns what he's doing. Despite his raging PTSD and borderline psychosis, he sees his own actions with a clearer eye than Matt.