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04 August 2013 @ 02:46 pm
The 12th Doctor Is In  
Say hello to the new Doctor.


I'm not sure what to think, actually. Peter Capaldi has already been part of the Who-verse before (like Karen Gillen and Freema Aygeman before they got roles as the Companion). He was in the "Fires of Pompeii" episode of Doctor Who and was Frobisher in Torchwood: Children of Earth. So his face isn't exactly new to Who-verse viewers which might be a good thing. Or not.

I guess Moffat and crew are going in a different direction age-wise since they're going from the youngest actor ever to be the Doctor (Matt Smith) to Capaldi who is 55. The whole point of hiring an actor so young was to bring in the Twilight crowd as Moffat had shamelessly stated when he first took over the show. It'll be interesting to see how those who tuned in due to Matt's youthfulness will take Capaldi. I'm a bit undecided if I'm going to tune back in to the show but maybe a few episodes.

As an aside, I'm extremely relieved that the new Doctor isn't Ben Whishaw. I thought the chances of this were extremely low but then everyone started speculating that he might be 12 after it was released earlier today he got married a year ago to Australian composer, Mark Bradshaw. Logic was that he was doing this now in preparation for the media storm to hit him should he be announced as the new Doctor. Even after that I was skeptical since the duties of being the Doctor are the polar opposite to what Ben Whishaw seemingly wants out of life. Playing one huge iconic role that you will be remembered for forever by crazed fans who will stalk you everywhere you film and ask you relentlessly personal and embarrassing questions? Yeah, nope.

As a double aside, Whishaw and Bradshaw (aw, the Shaws...) met on the set of Bright Star which Bradshaw did the music for. If you're going to fall in love, the set of Bright Star is pretty much the perfect venue. I feel like the idea of a composer for a film like Bright Star falling in love with actor who played Keats is kind of like a movie plot in its own right.


Anyway, back to the topic at hand: Hello, Doctor!
 
 
 
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on August 4th, 2013 07:07 pm (UTC)
I figured the next Doctor would be a white man, so I'm not as disappointed as some friends who really hoped for a woman or a person of color (though I'd have been really excited if they'd done that). I like that I don't have so strong an impression of Peter Capaldi in my head that I'll have trouble with him as the Doctor, though I do remember him as Frobisher—vaguely, because I'm trying to forget "Children of Earth" entirely.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 4th, 2013 07:11 pm (UTC)
I figured the next Doctor would be a white man

I would have been surprised and impressed if they'd hired a man of color to be the new Doctor. But I would have been REALLY shocked if they had gotten a woman. Canonically don't Time Lords have genders that they stick to? Or has that canon been blown out of the water of late?

Arguably the most recognizable role Capaldi has done of late is Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It which I haven't seen. He's mainly in my mind as the Scottish TV producer guy from Vicar of Dibley which was years back.
aelfgyfu_mead: Doctor Donnaaelfgyfu_mead on August 4th, 2013 07:13 pm (UTC)
There have been one or two Time Lords who have changed gender, but canonically, most of them at least seem to have a strong preference.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 4th, 2013 07:14 pm (UTC)
Ah, okay. Yeah, I don't know if I'd want the first female Doctor Who to be done with Moffat at the helm.
aelfgyfu_mead: questionaelfgyfu_mead on August 4th, 2013 07:15 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I'd want the first female Doctor Who to be done with Moffat at the helm.
Good point!
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 4th, 2013 07:56 pm (UTC)
I enjoy Peter Capaldi, but I just don't have much interest in Who while Moffatt is at the helm. The good thing I can see, and I'm sure there are more, Peter is a great actor, is that we can hopefully dump some of the lusting of the companions for the Doctor stuff, unless they cast some older companions. And considering my favourite companion (Donna) was partly my favourite because she was a friend and not in love, it might be good. We'll see, I guess.

Congrats indeed to the Shaws! I just looked that up on Google and I love the Daily Mail headline: "Ben Whishaw 'marries' his gay partner". Stay awful, Daily Mail.

I suppose this clears up the issue of Whishaw's sexuality. There seemed to be some speculation I noticed when I was doing research into Whishaw to characterize Q, though it seemed to stem entirely out of Whishaw's failure to correct a journalist who assumed he was straight. Which, from what I've seen of Whishaw was probably him being British and polite, shy, or just speaking too quietly for the person to hear.

Edited at 2013-08-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 4th, 2013 08:05 pm (UTC)
The good thing I can see, and I'm sure there are more, Peter is a great actor, is that we can hopefully dump some of the lusting of the companions for the Doctor stuff, unless they cast some older companions.

Yeah, I'm really curious how this is going to go. My general feeling of the fandom at large is that so many current fans of the show came into it because the Doctor was played by someone young and lust-able for teens and up that was mirrored by the companions. I'm all for them dumping the lusting idea but it'll be interesting to see if fans will be on board.

him being British and polite, shy, or just speaking too quietly for the person to hear.

This is not a man who is equipped to deal with the Almighty Fan/Media Chaotic Insane Frenzy that tends to surround anyone who plays Doctor Who. If I were in charge of casting at the BBC and his name popped up, even if he'd volunteered to be considered, I would have rejected the idea based solely on this.

BBC: Ben Whishaw?
Me: Because we want to watch a woodland creature be murdered by fandom?
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 4th, 2013 08:14 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm really curious how this is going to go. My general feeling of the fandom at large is that so many current fans of the show came into it because the Doctor was played by someone young and lust-able for teens and up that was mirrored by the companions. I'm all for them dumping the lusting idea but it'll be interesting to see if fans will be on board.

Yeah, I actually dismissed the rumours of Capaldi because I thought they wouldn't go that old and lose the lusting fans and companions, The only way around this is to cast two young companions to fall in love with each other, I guess. I'm sure in a realistic and not-at-all-disturbingly co-dependent way.


BBC: Ben Whishaw?
Me: Because we want to watch a woodland creature be murdered by fandom?


Oh God, I can just picture him standing there looking like a faun in headlights, his hair right up on end in an attempt to defend him. Poor fellow. Best just say indie, where he can go back quietly to the forest at night and frolic with his mate.

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formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 4th, 2013 08:16 pm (UTC)
The only way around this is to cast two young companions to fall in love with each other, I guess.

I'd actually really like that.

I'm sure in a realistic and not-at-all-disturbingly co-dependent way.

Moffat is still in charge so...no.

Best just say indie, where he can go back quietly to the forest at night and frolic with his mate.

The BBC would have had to buy out a forest sanctuary for him if they'd given him the role.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 4th, 2013 08:34 pm (UTC)
I'dactually really like that.

Me too, which means it probably won't happen. I would like to see the Doctor have a few companions in a go, though, and not just the current favourite who occasionally brings a friend that is ignored and berated.

The BBC would have had to buy out a forest sanctuary for him if they'd given him the role.

Maybe just a nice cottage in the woods somewhere. With some elves to guard him.

I thought Matt Smith would get trampled a little, actually, and he managed all right. Mostly by remaining barmy and oblivious. He's more of a hipster giraffe than a woodland creature, though.
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Dusty: ST. Spock + Bluedustlines on August 5th, 2013 05:28 am (UTC)
My only fear is that Moffat will have some convoluted, over dramatic reason that the current Doctor is also those two characters from Doctor Who and Torchwood, and he'll be on the verge of remembering those identities all the time. I'd rather Capaldi be someone brand new. But this is purely "Moffat is a bad writer" fear, not Capaldi-fear. Capaldi seems pretty chill and cool! I like the guy already. Here's hoping he gets the privilege of not being an asshat through no fault of his own, yes? ^_^

Seriously, though, I'm so excited that the Doctor's an older guy again! Thank goodness! I look forward to a more mature Doctor Who than what we've been getting lately. *nods-nods*
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 5th, 2013 05:42 am (UTC)
My only fear is that Moffat will have some convoluted, over dramatic reason that the current Doctor is also those two characters from Doctor Who and Torchwood, and he'll be on the verge of remembering those identities all the time.

I wouldn't worry too much. I think both of Capaldi's previous appearances on those shows were during the RTD years and Moffat seems keen on avoiding all references to those times.

I'm so excited that the Doctor's an older guy again!

Me too! I'll definitely tune in for a couple of episodes.
Dusty: ST-TOS. Kirk. Beauty of the Beholderdustlines on August 5th, 2013 06:39 am (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Karen Gillian was in the same RTD-era episode ("Fires of Pompei") that Capaldi was in, sooo...my concern lingers, alas. *nervously wrings hands* This is so annoying to me, that I avoid a great show because a showrunner is running it into the ground, egads. I'm truly surprised no one has thrown Moffat from the helm. I don't get bitter about many things, but aahhhhhh, he pulls such dread out of me.

Me too! I'll definitely tune in for a couple of episodes

I'm being fretful, but I really am looking forward to the new Doctor's first episode! With the right conditions, I think he could be amazing. :)



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formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 5th, 2013 06:45 am (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Karen Gillian was in the same RTD-era episode

True, but even though Moffat selected her, he's gone to a lot to make sure none of the plot-related elements from the RTD years ever touches the show. Amy hasn't had any dreams about Pompeii or something along those lines.

I don't even have a big worry about this show anymore because my biggest fears about Doctor Who have already happened under Moffat. His latest reveal about Clara just confirmed that it's been getting worse and worse. The casting of Capaldi can only improve the show or keep it at its steady course into Awfulness.
Dusty: Dresden Files. Harry + Booksdustlines on August 5th, 2013 07:54 am (UTC)
Touche, a very good point. Anyway, Capaldi seems so immediately charming. I think I'll like him a great deal. We'll see how things go. *G*

And now I need to go reply to your comments on the meme post from a little while ago. Augh, I feel so badly about how awful I've been at prompt correspondence lately. I have two weeks left to finish my Big Bang, and my work hours have been so different each day, and so my head is constantly in a thousand directions, yikes. It's like I can't concentrate when I get home anymore. O_o
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