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12 February 2015 @ 04:09 pm
Agent Carter: A Sin to Err  
Recognition proves to be a double edged sword for Peggy.


So my earlier wish that somehow Dooley and Thompson might finally see Peggy for all her competence happened but in the worst possible way as Sousa exposes Peggy as the blonde. I must admit, though, I felt kind of satisfied when Peggy took down all the agents who came after her at the diner and Dooley being somewhat shocked and perhaps a bit impressed at hearing that. I also found it kind of satisfying that Peggy punched Thompson into unconsciousness.

I get why Sousa chose to bring his findings to Dooley instead of talking to Peggy about it first. In some ways, it shows a kind of respect for Peggy that Sousa thinks of her as a good spy and someone to be wary of and marshall forces against rather than underestimate her as they've done for so long. He's also an SSR agent and he does have a job to do. However, he does let her go which possibly he might have mixed feelings about.

But before everything goes pear-shaped, we have a few reveals. One, is that the rescued Russian psychiatrist is, indeed, completely Leviathan and working with Dottie. I don't know why but this really shocked me. I know I shouldn't have been this taken in. I very quickly identified Dottie as a possible antagonist but was blindsided by the psychiatrist also being evil. His whole hypnotism thing was a bit overly convenient but I really liked his genuine ability to get people to expose their weaknesses to him via his straightforward therapy skills. He and Hannibal Lecter can swap stories.

Two, we learn that Dottie was the one to infiltrate and gain access to Howard Stark's vault by having a fling with him. Peggy was completely right in that Howard would trust a shark if it wore a short enough skirt. I very much liked watching Peggy and Jarvis having to revisit all of Howard's old flings. On a purely comedic level, Jarvis had the best pained expression on his face while listening to all the women shame him and Howard for their behavior before slapping and/or kicking him. On a "this is how you write with dimension" level, I loved Peggy's comment to Jarvis' observation that Howard seems to gravitate toward violent women that they were probably less so before having met Howard.

One of the lines in the first Iron Man movie that sticks out to me more than any other was Pepper stating that she's in charge of taking out Tony's garbage in reference to clearing out the women Tony sleeps with. I mean, I get it that it was directly said to the journalist who wasn't exactly ethical but I felt like the general sentiment was that Tony is charmingly sleazy and the women are to be used and tossed. In that one line, I immediately disliked how the writers had situated Pepper as someone who would shame the women while tolerating Tony. Because the fact is, you can still do your job of having to discreetly deal with your boss' one night stands and not call the women who take Tony up on his behavior as trash. It was such a harsh double standard and having to hear it from Pepper of all people made it so much worse for me. Which is why I was glad that Agent Carter places most of the atrociousness of Howard's interactions with women on Howard rather than the women.

Going along with women in this show, Angie proves her worth as an actress and as a friend by immediately helping Peggy, no questions asked. I liked how she didn't demand an explanation but only stated her wish that she hopes one day Peggy will be able to tell her the whole story. I really hope that if this show gets renewed in some fashion, Angie will remain a part of the cast because her ordinary but tight friendship with Peggy was one of the best things I've seen on TV.

And now a couple of quickfire thoughts:

1) I warmed up to Dooley in the past couple of episodes. I was as shocked and as pleased as Peggy when he gave her the okay to run down her suspicions.

2) Is that dentist who interviewed Dottie dead? I'm guessing yes which I have mixed feelings about. I mean, he didn't deserve death but he was also incredibly sleazy so...
 
 
 
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 13th, 2015 12:28 am (UTC)
I too had not seen the psychiatrist as being evil, so well played on that part, show. I couldn't tell if his ring was supposed to be giving off weird hypnotic noises (it seemed to have a little 'screech-ping' noise when he turned it) or if that was just the soundtrack telling us it was a Bad Thing.

My favourite thing about the diner fight was that Jarvis was once again given the Damsel In Distress trope of smashing objects over men's heads while Peggy kicked ass. I love that Jarvis can improvise like that when need arises, and I love how proud he looks when he hits the man with the tray. 'Yes, I am somewhat badass when required. Go Jarvis, 10/10 for being helpful'.

Which is why I was glad that Agent Carter places most of the atrociousness of Howard's interactions with women on Howard rather than the women.

I really enjoyed the women mentioning that if they were the ones sleeping around that much, that they would be given a very different label than the one Howard gets. I was also oddly pleased at the cultural diversity of the his conquests. Howard Stark is an equal-opportunity asshole, it seems.

As much as I lolled at Jarvis' sincere belief that Ginger Rogers was a Russian spy, I do feel a little bad for the actual 1940's celebrities who are implied to have slept with Howard Stark. It seems a bit in poor taste for some reason.

I keep picking up and hugging the little factoids we get 'Howard Stark is claustrophobic' 'Howard Stark likes raspberry truffles'. Huzzah for facts!

I also have a little headcanon that Maria and Howard broke-up at some point and Jarvis was all set to get her a bracelet and Howard was like 'no, she's better than a bracelet' and Jarvis was like 'oh dear, this is far more serious than I thought'. Because writing epic love stories for characters that don't have any canon facts about them is my new thing (I'm looking at you Jarvis and Anna).

I warmed up to Dooley in the past couple of episodes. I was as shocked and as pleased as Peggy when he gave her the okay to run down her suspicions.

He reminds me of Lt. Welsh of Due South fame. Sort of gruff and no-nonsense, but a bit of a softie, too. I thought it was very sweet that he was going to show the Russian guy around New York.

I felt bad that his faith in Peggy promptly bit him in the ass.

Is that dentist who interviewed Dottie dead? I'm guessing yes which I have mixed feelings about. I mean, he didn't deserve death but he was also incredibly sleazy so...

Pretty sure he's dead. The actor was also on a Canadian TV show for many years in which he was Australian, and now I have learned he's not Australian or Canadian, but American, and I don't know what to do with this information.

I kind of laughed at how quickly the SSR boys went to panic mode when Angie started crying. Even Sousa was like 'oh God, how do I turn her off?'. Do seriously none of them have sisters? I felt at least like Sousa has a sister (I don't know why, I just feel like he has at least one) and would have done something more than stare in terror at a crying woman.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on February 13th, 2015 12:44 am (UTC)
I was also oddly pleased at the cultural diversity of the his conquests. Howard Stark is an equal-opportunity asshole, it seems.

Yes! I was also strangely pleased by the fact that Howard doesn't let race limit his sleazy behavior. Apparently his only type is that they be female.

I also have a little headcanon that Maria and Howard broke-up at some point and Jarvis was all set to get her a bracelet and Howard was like 'no, she's better than a bracelet' and Jarvis was like 'oh dear, this is far more serious than I thought'.

Funny that you mention this because my headcanon was that Howard never bought Maria any jewelry because of his association to what giving women jewelry meant and she was so much more than that. When he proposed to her, it was a proposal sans ring which Maria later just got for herself.

Even Sousa was like 'oh God, how do I turn her off?'. Do seriously none of them have sisters? I felt at least like Sousa has a sister (I don't know why, I just feel like he has at least one) and would have done something more than stare in terror at a crying woman.

I also can see Sousa having a sister. Maybe it's because he's the only SSR agent who seems to treat women with some respect and I can believe having a sister helped with that. But apparently not when it comes to them crying because that makes everyone freeze.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 13th, 2015 01:02 am (UTC)
Funny that you mention this because my headcanon was that Howard never bought Maria any jewelry because of his association to what giving women jewelry meant and she was so much more than that. When he proposed to her, it was a proposal sans ring which Maria later just got for herself.

Awww. That's very sweet. I sometimes thing not!romance is more romantic than romance is. I've been playing around with the OTP challenge prompts for them for character development purposes, and there's lot of 'oh, she's smart, that's nice, but I respect her too much to try to date her' and I'm actually finding it really hard to have Howard make a move on her because he likes her too much for that.

I also can see Sousa having a sister. Maybe it's because he's the only SSR agent who seems to treat women with some respect and I can believe having a sister helped with that. But apparently not when it comes to them crying because that makes everyone freeze.

Sousa seems like a guy who maybe lost or lacked his father and was raised by his mom and possibly has some sisters, and so doesn't have the same view of how men 'should' act or women 'should' behave. Sort of like Steve a bit, I guess.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on February 13th, 2015 01:19 am (UTC)
I sometimes thing not!romance is more romantic than romance is.

This is like the only kind of romance I can really write.

'oh, she's smart, that's nice, but I respect her too much to try to date her' and I'm actually finding it really hard to have Howard make a move on her because he likes her too much for that.

I like the idea that Howard fell in love with Maria before he actually dated her because they worked together first. I also picture him eventually asking Jarvis how he should go about dating Maria since he hasn't ever done real feelings dating before.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 13th, 2015 01:44 am (UTC)
l I also picture him eventually asking Jarvis how he should go about dating Maria since he hasn't ever done real feelings dating before.

Aww.

"Well, I didn't so much court Mrs Jarvis as betray my country to save her from probable death, so I am probably not the best candidate to offer advice,"

"So, you're saying I should go for the big gestures then?"

"Actually, sir, in your case, I very much feel that small gestures might be best appreciated. You could...ask her if she'd like to go out for dinner?"

"...huh, that's pretty clever, actually."

"Thank you, sir."

Very random, I just remember when I was thinking about Sousa that I noticed this week he uses his crutch on the right side of his body, which pleased me. It looks like his right leg is the missing one, and he uses his crutch on the left side, which is how he's supposed to use it. A lot time on TV they use it on the same side as the injury, which is wrong.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on February 13th, 2015 02:17 am (UTC)
A lot time on TV they use it on the same side as the injury, which is wrong.

Huh, I never knew that. Wait, so if your right leg is injured, the crutch should be used on the left side? How does that balance you when you're walking? Or is that not the proper way to use a crutch?

"Actually, sir, in your case, I very much feel that small gestures might be best appreciated. You could...ask her if she'd like to go out for dinner?"

A low key dinner would probably go a lot further to impress Maria who has most likely seen Howard's previous romances all over the papers.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 13th, 2015 02:31 am (UTC)
Wait, so if your right leg is injured, the crutch should be used on the left side? How does that balance you when you're walking? Or is that not the proper way to use a crutch?

Most people assume you should be using your cane or crutch in place of your bad leg, but what you actually want to be doing is swinging the cane at the same time as the bad leg, but from the opposite side, so that you have something balancing and supporting you when you step on the bad leg, which keeps from falling over. Your good leg doesn't need help to walk, so you lift your cane when you step on that one, and put it down when you step on your bad one.

Incidentally, they purposely had House use his cane incorrectly to match his character's tendency to not play nice.

If you're old person using it just for balance, you should just use it in your non-dominant hand, though.

A low key dinner would probably go a lot further to impress Maria who has most likely seen Howard's previous romances all over the papers.

In one of the little ficlets, Maria is way more impressed that Howard has just prepared an entire cheese tray in front of her from stuff in gift baskets he's received than the fact he's also talking about meeting Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio.

i have a mental image of Howard being very protective of her out in public, too, which Jarvis notes is very unlike him.
aelfgyfu_mead: Peggy Carteraelfgyfu_mead on February 13th, 2015 02:35 am (UTC)
I really enjoyed the women mentioning that if they were the ones sleeping around that much, that they would be given a very different label than the one Howard gets. I was also oddly pleased at the cultural diversity of the his conquests. Howard Stark is an equal-opportunity asshole, it seems.
Yes!

As much as I lolled at Jarvis' sincere belief that Ginger Rogers was a Russian spy, I do feel a little bad for the actual 1940's celebrities who are implied to have slept with Howard Stark. It seems a bit in poor taste for some reason.
It bothered me a little too.
aelfgyfu_mead: Peggy Carteraelfgyfu_mead on February 13th, 2015 02:34 am (UTC)
I like your icon!

I found the episode really painful because just when the men started to respect her and get along with her, then they can't work together because they think she's a traitor! I was frustrated. Sousa did what he had to do; I don't blame him or Thompson or Dooley . . . yet. We'll see what they do when she starts talking, because I don't see any reason why she can't tell them virtually everything. (She should probably minimize Jarvis's role!) I want to see them working together! I hope we'll get that in the last episode, if not before.

I did have to laugh that Thompson still underestimated her, even after seeing her in action. Sousa didn't. He kept his distance. But she was obviously right that he wouldn't shoot. I feel for him on that.

I was shocked the psychiatrist was working with Leviathan! Now it all makes sense. I couldn't understand why the Soviets had such an elaborate trap that appeared to gain them nothing. Now we know the payoff: they got a man inside SSR. And he's not some incompetent hack (as I feel far too many tv shrinks are), but someone who really can effectively get inside people's heads. The hypnotism was a bit much—unless there was something special about the ring. I think maybe there's something amplifying the hypnotic effect. Hey, I can fanon as well as the next gal!

YES about Pepper! I really didn't like Pepper in that first movie. I couldn't believe she said that. Jarvis recognizes that Stark treats women badly, and he's embarrassed for his employer. You'd think he'd have figured out to stay out of reach, though. He's really not good at violence at all.

I love how much we get to see women doing. Peggy is a woman in a man's world—and yet her nemesis now is another woman, and they're both highly skilled. She has a great friend in Angie, whom I do hope we see again! Angie, like Peggy, is able to use the men's low opinion of women to manipulate them.

1) Yes! Dooley can learn—more effectively than Thompson. That's why he's the boss. He really isn't stupid. And she was getting valuable information. Now we just has to hope he believes her before it's too late. Have they noticed yet that the psychiatrist has gone walkabout?

2) Yes, and I feel bad for him. He was a creep, but that doesn't deserve death (although I wouldn't have objected to a good comeuppance.)

I loved Jarvis with the "future Mafioso."

Angie must have thought the coast was clear when she told Peggy about the car and let Peggy walk out of the room. That seems kind of a big oops with so many agents still in the building. Were they all holed up in what's-her-name's office when Angie was looking around?
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on February 13th, 2015 02:48 am (UTC)
I want to see them working together! I hope we'll get that in the last episode, if not before.

Me too! I also hope no one dies. I know Peggy and Jarvis will obviously live but I care just enough about the other SSR agents that I want them to survive. If someone has to go, I'd vote for Thompson but only if it's unavoidable.

I was shocked the psychiatrist was working with Leviathan! Now it all makes sense.

Him being the mole makes SO much sense that I really am berating myself for not seeing it at all.

I think maybe there's something amplifying the hypnotic effect. Hey, I can fanon as well as the next gal!

That would actually be so much better than just him having super hypnotizing powers.

YES about Pepper! I really didn't like Pepper in that first movie. I couldn't believe she said that.

That one line soured me to Pepper's character for most of the first movie.

I really liked Peggy's expressions when the women were ranting about Howard to her and Jarvis. You can totally see her sort of nodding along and completely agreeing with them that Howard is awful.

I love how much we get to see women doing.

Yes! In addition to that, I like that the show balances out showing us "unconventional" women of the time with more conventional ones like Peggy's landlady. It's like this show knows different women can exist in the world!

Yes, and I feel bad for him. He was a creep, but that doesn't deserve death (although I wouldn't have objected to a good comeuppance.)

I would have settled for Dottie maybe breaking his fingers.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 13th, 2015 03:14 am (UTC)
The hypnotism was a bit much—unless there was something special about the ring. I think maybe there's something amplifying the hypnotic effect. Hey, I can fanon as well as the next gal!

I felt like it was meant to give off a certain sound when he twisted it that maybe had some sort of brain wave impact or ability to lull people into a state where they were more open to suggestion.

The whole scenario with him and the agent reminded me very much of the pushers in the movie Push (which, incidentally, starred Chris Evans).

YES about Pepper! I really didn't like Pepper in that first movie.

That was a low point for her character, but she redeemed herself for me in the first film when she acted like a smart person and walked away from danger instead of standing there like an idiot and allowing herself to be hurt like almost any other female character in an action film. She just noped out of the office with Obidaiah and went directly to find someone to help her. She called the police in the second movie! It's very sad how low my expectations are, but I'm just really happy they make Pepper do logical things.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on February 14th, 2015 02:18 pm (UTC)
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