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13 January 2015 @ 11:03 pm
Agent Carter: Time and Tide  
So many emotions during this episode!


Lots got packed into this episode, although we're left with more questions than answers.

The SSR use the license plate from the last episode to bring in Jarvis for questioning. Before that we see that it looks like the Jarvis residence is within the Stark grounds. Anyway, it looked like Jarvis was just going to quip his way through the interrogation until Thompson pulled out his record of being charged with treason. Man, I had such intense feelings when Peggy threw herself under the bus. I so admired her willing to take that professional hit so that Jarvis could go free but my stomach was in knots for her when she was getting yelled at by Thompson and Dooley.

Jarvis' backstory was surprisingly touching. I loved that he risked being executed to try and save Anna. Howard saving them both just because he liked Jarvis and had the resources feels like a very Howard-like thing to do. The man builds "bad babies" because he can and he wants to. He wanted to help out a good guy and save the woman he loves, so he did.

I also like how this show is developing Peggy's friendship with Angie. Usually when something bad happens on shows like this, it usually brings the romantic interests together a bit more. Like, I would have fully expected Peggy and Sousa to have a Moment because of Kaminsky's death. But instead we have Peggy going to Angie which was great. Even if she can't tell Angie everything, she can still show Angie her other, more vulnerable side and get support. I really hope nothing bad happens to Angie!

Speaking of bad things happening, Kaminsky gets killed off. The weird thing is, when Peggy and Jarvis were leaving the boat, I kept thinking that if the show was darker, they would have had Peggy or Jarvis kill the witness so that he couldn't report about seeing Peggy. Well, the show went halfway and had a mysterious assassin do the killing. Kaminsky was written to be a straightforwardly dislikable character, something Peggy admitted to even after he got killed. But he didn't deserve to be murdered like that so I felt a little bad for him, even if I was glad to not have to hear his side comments every week.

And now some quickfire observations:

1) Jarvis' American accent was amazing. You can see it almost pains him, knowing how terrible it sounds while he was on the phone. I've heard James D'Arcy do an American accent in other things so I know he can do better if he was trying for real. Although not THAT much better.

2) I'm guessing that mysterious assassin is Dottie, the new tenant at the boarding house. The shooter looked rather slender and at first glance I did think it was a woman dressed in a suit.

3) I haven't really talked about this but I love how Peggy Carter fights. She doesn't do the smooth, svelte fighting of Melinda May or Natasha Romanoff. She does the heavy lifting fighting that is about brute force sometimes which is a change for woman in action that I very much like seeing.
 
 
 
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 14th, 2015 04:34 am (UTC)
I had a brief moment of panic when Jarvis's treason backstory came out, because I was worried it was going to be some sort of redemption plotline that he'd done something horrible and Howard was giving him a second chance, so I was super happy when it turned out to be romantic instead. And James D'arcy did some lovely acting, portraying how much Jarvis loves and respects Anna without getting sappy or lovesick over it. He liked her tie. :-D

And can absolutely see Howard rescuing both Jarvis and Anna with a 'oh, no, don't worry, I can fix that, give me a second. Now, should I use Money or Technology...?'

Jarvis' American accent was amazing. You can see it almost pains him, knowing how terrible it sounds while he was on the phone.

I'm overall loving Jarvis' combination of fussy English gentleman in over his head and trying to butle his way through and just moments of being able to be kind of badass enough to help, if not be truly a soldier or fighter. He's unflappable, but also a little out of his depth, which is an interesting combination. I guess that's what happens when you work for a Stark. It kind of reminds of Pepper's totally owning of stressful situations, followed immediately by 'oh my God, which did you just make me do?!'

I'm guessing that mysterious assassin is Dottie, the new tenant at the boarding house. The shooter looked rather slender and at first glance I did think it was a woman dressed in a suit.

I thought it was a woman, too, but I didn't think of Dottie. They did spend a lot of time introducing her for someone who just lives there. She has to have some purpose.

I figured someone was going to have to get killed to keep Peggy safe, but I didn't know that Kaminsky would go down with him. I can't say I was sad to see him go, but I was sad that everyone else was sad.

Randomly, I also really like that Sousa isn't given any different story/character treatment for being 'disabled'. He went out on scene, and does his work, and isn't portrayed as inspiring. All the normal character tropes are a little skewed in this show, much to my pleasure.

I'm also happy to get a visual on what the Stark house looks like, as some of my running away fic is set there. I have to mentally move things around, but I wasn't a million miles off.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 14th, 2015 04:45 am (UTC)
And James D'arcy did some lovely acting, portraying how much Jarvis loves and respects Anna without getting sappy or lovesick over it. He liked her tie. :-D

Yes! You could clearly see that he loves her a lot but he was restrained in telling Peggy about it. Sartorial Love Story. So sweet.

'oh, no, don't worry, I can fix that, give me a second. Now, should I use Money or Technology...?'

The other thing I liked is Peggy's objective assessments of Howard. I loved her quips about him believing you need advanced technology to brush your teeth and that he'd trust a shark if it wore a short skirt.

I guess that's what happens when you work for a Stark. It kind of reminds of Pepper's totally owning of stressful situations, followed immediately by 'oh my God, which did you just make me do?!'

He makes a good foil for Peggy who is very competent but is held back because she's a woman whereas Jarvis is only held back by his own lack of experience and possibly skill. I do enjoy having him having to do damsel in distress duties when the plot needs it.

Randomly, I also really like that Sousa isn't given any different story/character treatment for being 'disabled'. He went out on scene, and does his work, and isn't portrayed as inspiring. All the normal character tropes are a little skewed in this show, much to my pleasure.

Yup. I feel like the show is being kind of realistic in the way Sousa's character is handled. He's been hired by the SSR so he does his job and really his leg is only ever mentioned when demonstrating that the SSR guys can be jerks which we see in other ways. Kaminsky telling him that Peggy would never trade in Captain America for Sousa's disability was so aggravating. Especially since Peggy connected with pre-serum Rogers, not Captain America.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 14th, 2015 04:59 am (UTC)
Yes! You could clearly see that he loves her a lot but he was restrained in telling Peggy about it. Sartorial Love Story. So sweet.

I'm trying to decide if Tony would have known her at all. I couldn't figure out how to get the story to stop because it just wouldn't come to an end, so Jarvis decided he'd step in and tidy it all up and narrate me out, but now I have to decide what his life is like in 1978. I'm operating under the theory that Anna is dead, but I don't know if Tony and Mim would have met her.

The other thing I liked is Peggy's objective assessments of Howard. I loved her quips about him believing you need advanced technology to brush your teeth and that he'd trust a shark if it wore a short skirt.

The quip about brushing his teeth made me lol. Mostly because I could see Howard finding brushing his teeth the most boring part of his day and trying to figure out how to either speed it up or make it fun.

Jarvis: Mr. Stark, I put your toothbrush in the cup on the sink and it began to play 'In the Mood'.
Howard: Yeah. I wanted 'Moonlight Serenade', but there's a rights issue.

Kaminsky telling him that Peggy would never trade in Captain America for Sousa's disability was so aggravating. Especially since Peggy connected with pre-serum Rogers, not Captain America.

I really love the very realistic rampant sexism in the office, and the idea by the others that Peggy is only there because she was Steve's girlfriend. It's what made her having to pretend to make a mistake so horrifying to watch. It's just playing right into everything. I was squirming.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 14th, 2015 05:04 am (UTC)
I'm operating under the theory that Anna is dead, but I don't know if Tony and Mim would have met her.

For the first time ever, you've killed off a character that I have not. I imagined Anna to still be alive and for Tony to be asking as a kid why Jarvis and Mrs. Jarvis don't have any children as he'd like a brother.

It would practically make sense that by 1978 she's gone as it force Jarvis' life to really revolve around the Starks. But I strangely want to keep Anna Jarvis alive, even if we've never seen her.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 14th, 2015 05:24 am (UTC)
For the first time ever, you've killed off a character that I have not. I imagined Anna to still be alive and for Tony to be asking as a kid why Jarvis and Mrs. Jarvis don't have any children as he'd like a brother.

We share the headcanon of there being no children, though! And also, awwww at Tony.

But I strangely want to keep Anna Jarvis alive, even if we've never seen her.

Me too, actually. Especially now that Jarvis is so sweet about her.

There's technically nothing that says she can't be alive in the story. I can keep her in another room in the end piece. She seems to like to be in other rooms. As long as she likes watching Wonder Woman with Jarvis and Haddie, she's welcome to come along.

In other 'first time' news, I actually went 'this is getting too happy...Oh, I know what would be sad...'
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 14th, 2015 05:32 am (UTC)
And also, awwww at Tony.

I have random headcanon of Tony as a small child wishing Jarvis was his father, which Jarvis was both touched by and also slightly uncomfortable about.

In other 'first time' news, I actually went 'this is getting too happy...Oh, I know what would be sad...'

We seem to influencing each other nicely.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 14th, 2015 05:39 am (UTC)
I have random headcanon of Tony as a small child wishing Jarvis was his father, which Jarvis was both touched by and also slightly uncomfortable about.

Mim expresses similar thoughts throughout the story. It's sort of morphed in to being as much about Jarvis stepping is as a father as it is about Tony and Howard's lack of relationship. And it's done! I just need to see if I need more yelly bits, and some cleaning up, but it has an ending and a point and stuff. And it's really long. I remember when I used to feel bad when my stories went over 2,000 words, now that's the minimum I ever seem to write.



formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 14th, 2015 05:40 am (UTC)
And it's done! I just need to see if I need more yelly bits, and some cleaning up, but it has an ending and a point and stuff.

Hooray! *throws confetti*

I can't wait to read it!
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 14th, 2015 05:45 am (UTC)
Thank you! I hope it'll be up in the next few days.
aelfgyfu_mead: Juneaelfgyfu_mead on January 16th, 2015 02:46 am (UTC)
Jarvis: Mr. Stark, I put your toothbrush in the cup on the sink and it began to play 'In the Mood'.
Howard: Yeah. I wanted 'Moonlight Serenade', but there's a rights issue.


Hahahaha! Yeah, Howard is so respectful of legal rights, like all the Starks we know.
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on January 16th, 2015 02:45 am (UTC)
I had a brief moment of panic when Jarvis's treason backstory came out, because I was worried it was going to be some sort of redemption plotline that he'd done something horrible and Howard was giving him a second chance, so I was super happy when it turned out to be romantic instead.
Me too!

I also really like that Sousa isn't given any different story/character treatment for being 'disabled'. He went out on scene, and does his work, and isn't portrayed as inspiring.
Yes!
aelfgyfu_mead: Peggy Carteraelfgyfu_mead on January 16th, 2015 02:54 am (UTC)
Yes for female friendship! I was very glad that Peggy went back to talk with Angie. I hope they keep up that friendship.

Howard Stark is a jerk, though, and I had some sympathy with the SSR guys blaming him even though he didn't do it! He did make things that he really, really knew could not be in anyone's hands, and he was overconfident in the security of his vault.

I felt surprisingly bad about Kaminsky. I didn't see that coming until the car bumped his, and then I realized in a flash: he had to die because he was putting together the pieces about Peggy. I didn't like him, but I felt like he was an actual person, and as if a wife and a girlfriend really had to be told! I was shocked.

I'm sure we'll still get plenty of snide comments from the other men.

Oh, Jarvis! You're not quite ready for the spy world yet. He was trying so hard, but they were cheating! My stomach just dropped when Peggy metaphorically threw herself on the grenade. She probably thought she might even lose her job, and even after Stark is exonerated, they'll never know she was being heroic and self-sacrificing and smart and not at all dumb! She can think rings around these men. I didn't want to watch the aftermath of that.

1) I laughed so hard! And then he almost blew it by wishing them "a lovely evening," which is so unAmerican! He then looked pleased with himself. I wanted to hug him.

2) I bet you're right! I was sure that she was sent there at least to spy, but I didn't get a good look at the shooter, even at the shape.

3) Me too. I can imagine a real person doing that. (I love Melinda and Natasha, but that's choreography more than fighting.)

I loved the bit in the vault where Peggy shows off her knowledge of the sewers. There's a story there waiting to be written (but it won't be by me).
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 16th, 2015 03:05 am (UTC)
I was very glad that Peggy went back to talk with Angie. I hope they keep up that friendship.

I have my fingers crossed for this because I do like Peggy and Angie's chemistry.

even after Stark is exonerated, they'll never know she was being heroic and self-sacrificing and smart and not at all dumb!

This show is doing an excellent job in really making me feel Peggy's frustration. She IS doing great work behind the scenes and these people will just never know. When she told Jarvis she was going to call in finding Stark's death toys and that they would respect her for it, I was with her in so wanting it to be true. Even though Jarvis was clearly right.

And then he almost blew it by wishing them "a lovely evening," which is so unAmerican!

Yes! During that moment, I was all, "Keep it together, Jarvis! Don't go polite!" I laughed quite a bit at James D'Arcy's expression when he replied to Sousa's query about who he was with, "Just a pal."

I loved the bit in the vault where Peggy shows off her knowledge of the sewers. There's a story there waiting to be written (but it won't be by me).

There are all these side stories that I'm curious about. Such as Peggy's knowledge of New York sewers. The last time Jarvis used a harness and was tied to 'a very amusing Spaniard.'
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 16th, 2015 03:47 am (UTC)
There are all these side stories that I'm curious about. Such as Peggy's knowledge of New York sewers.

Was that a reference to working in the SSR unit in New York where Steve was Captain Americafied? Didn't that happen in the sewers under a shop of some sort? Or just the back of it?


The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 16th, 2015 03:50 am (UTC)
I laughed so hard! And then he almost blew it by wishing them "a lovely evening," which is so unAmerican! He then looked pleased with himself. I wanted to hug him.

I loved how sort of baffled and pleased he looked after getting off the phone. A combination of 'did I do that?' and 'go me, I did that!'.

I was actually really not wanting a human Jarvis because I loved AI J.A.R.V.I.S so much that I wanted him to be his own self and not based on a person, but now I'm just loving both versions of Jarvis more.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 16th, 2015 03:54 am (UTC)
I was actually really not wanting a human Jarvis because I loved AI J.A.R.V.I.S so much that I wanted him to be his own self and not based on a person, but now I'm just loving both versions of Jarvis more.

As I'm watching this series, I do get a little sad in wondering at what point human!Jarvis left Tony's life. Did he pass away? (probably) Did he go back to England? (probably not).
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 16th, 2015 03:58 am (UTC)
I think, and I'm not sure of the source of it, Jarvis was at least around until sometime after Howard and Maria's deaths. That's according to the MCU wiki, which is pretty detailed in gathering all the source material. It describes him as 'raising' Tony after Howard and Maria died, though since Tony was either 17 (according to the first IM movie, IIRC) or 21 (according to a logical progression of time), I don't know how much 'raising' was left to do. But there is a tie-in comic where Tony remembers coming home from boarding school and talking to Jarvis. He's telling J.A.R.V.I.S about it, and J.A.R.V.I.S says he doesn't remember that, and Tony explains that he was talking about real Jarvis and not AI J.A.R.V.I.S. I haven't seen the comic, just read about it, so I don't know what age Tony was meant to be at the time.

So, the answer is, 'I don't know', but I'm guessing he was around until Tony was somewhere in his teens at least.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 17th, 2015 01:06 am (UTC)
I made a thing.

Fancied up version of the thing.

Hope this thing finds you well. Have a lovely evening!
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 17th, 2015 01:21 am (UTC)
Aww! These are so good! I love how the postures of the daemons are identical to their humans.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 17th, 2015 01:50 am (UTC)
Thanks! I had it very clearly in my head, so I wanted to give it a go. Hyenas don't sit on their butts, as far I can tell, just lay or stand, but luckily Takeo's limbs aren't visible in the shot. I like to think Haddie's tail is just very slightly touching Takeo's when Jarvs hands the handkerchief over in that scene.