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06 January 2015 @ 10:27 pm
TV Series: Agent Carter  
The 7 part miniseries about Peggy Carter has finally arrived!


In short, I really liked it. The look of the series, the writing, the costumes, and the acting. I was not prepared for the show to have so many Captain America: The First Avenger flashbacks but it felt like a good way to remind people about what happened so that we're all up to speed on where Peggy is and her relationship to Howard Stark.

When we meet Peggy Carter now, she's an agent at the SSR and is predictably treated more like a secretary than an agent. And what an agent! From the sudden undercover aliases to the ass kicking, Peggy Carter rules! I have fantasies now that Melinda May grew up reading about Peggy Carter, Founder of SHIELD and wanting to be her. While the sexism for the times felt realistic, I did want Peggy to grind her heels into the hands of all the jerks she works with. Daniel Sousa being the exception. I was kind of hoping that it would turn out that Sousa was among the soldiers rescued by Steve from Zola but I guess that would make it too obvious that he would then be the future Mr. Carter. A little mystery is good I guess. He seems to be her only real ally at SSR so here's hoping he doesn't turn out to be evil or anything.

From the info we got in this episode about Howard Stark, it seems like Tony really did follow in his father's footsteps in every sense. A nurse's costume? Really, Howard? "Mr. Stark likes to employ theatrics to his romantic endeavors." How very discreet of you, Jarvis. While I was initially disappointed that we wouldn't get the Peggy Carter/Howard Stark Work Spouses dynamic, I very much enjoyed the banter between Peggy and Edwin Jarvis. Of course, given the suspicious phone conversation between Jarvis and Stark, I couldn't trust a single word coming out of Jarvis' mouth, especially when he was giving Peggy that talk about letting people help her at the end. Is this just his way of keeping eyes on her for Howard? Dammit, I want Jarvis to really mean what he said because it's so true. Steve may have been a hero but he couldn't be one without Peggy who is a heroine.

I also liked that the show didn't shy away from how her job does take a toll on Peggy who felt the weight of getting her roommate accidentally killed. For whatever reason, I so did not see this happening. I actually gasped when Peggy found the body. And here I was looking forward to getting to know Colleen a bit better as the show went on.

All in all, a fine start to what I hope remains a fine series.

Random Thoughts:

1) One of Peggy's aliases this episode was Ruth Barton. Just thought it was a cute nod.

2) Oh, hello Vanko. I guess this was all before your relationship with Howard went to hell.

3) I may have snorted up some of the water I was drinking at Jarvis' reaction when Peggy told him he'd lost a button.

4) So does Jarvis not live in the Stark household? He answered the phone as "Jarvis residence" so he lives in his own place with his wife. Somehow I thought manservants lived with their employers or have I been reading too much PG Wodehouse? Or is it like Jarvis lives in a separate house within Stark's grounds? Given that Stark's side apartment unit where he meets with random women is bigger than the entire building I live in right now, I'd imagine Howard owns like a town's worth of land for his personal use.

5) Peggy casually taking the stairs to cut off the escaping suspect and casually bringing him down with a borrowed briefcase was my favorite thing. Actually, Peggy casually using all sorts of everyday items (stapler, briefcase, perfume) to take down evil and disarm bombs was my favorite thing.

6) We won't talk about the wonky science of how a small body of water diffused a truckload of death bombs.
 
 
 
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 7th, 2015 03:44 am (UTC)
Of course, given the suspicious phone conversation between Jarvis and Stark, I couldn't trust a single word coming out of Jarvis' mouth, especially when he was giving Peggy that talk about letting people help her at the end. Is this just his way of keeping eyes on her for Howard? Dammit, I want Jarvis to really mean what he said because it's so true.

I can only say that I doubt that Jarvis could be up to too much in the way of evil, as we know he goes on to raise Tony well-enough to get a whole A.I named after him. Obviously Tony wouldn't have done that if he was a bad guy. But I don't know what that conversation was about, either.

The only thing I can think of is that Jarvis is more badass than he appears and Howard has asked him to keep it on the DL but to step in if necessary, and that's what Peggy's not suspecting. Comic!Jarvis was a RAF pilot, so he might have hidden depths. I can't see why he's so insistent on accompanying her if he knows he can't help her.

Somehow I thought manservants lived with their employers or have I been reading too much PG Wodehouse?

Married servants didn't live in the house, because traditionally male and female servants had separate quarters, so if you were married, you couldn't live with your spouse. The typical arrangement was for whomever was the servant to live in the house and go home on their off-days to see their spouse, if they were allowed to be married at all. That's why so many servants didn't marry period, or married very late in life; they would have had to leave service. It's possible because Howard is away that Jarvis is able to live with his wife, or that, because this isn't England and Howard doesn't have a fleet of staff, he doesn't care where Jarvis lives and gave him his own quarters for him and his wife, or lets him have his own place.

/history nerd

I super liked it. It's totally my cup of tea. Nice and silly, not too too violent, and full of great characters. I hope it continues in the same vein. All the nods to the future were great, right down to Howard having the same flippant attitude with the Senate hearing as Tony has with his in the future. And that Jarvis is basically Howard's Pepper. And the Captain America Adventure Show is so painfully perfect.

I'm also just really pleased that my daemon for Jarvis still seems appropriate.




Edited at 2015-01-07 03:45 am (UTC)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 7th, 2015 03:50 am (UTC)
I can only say that I doubt that Jarvis could be up to too much in the way of evil, as we know he goes on to raise Tony well-enough to get a whole A.I named after him. Obviously Tony wouldn't have done that if he was a bad guy. But I don't know what that conversation was about, either.

I don't think Jarvis is evil but I did wonder if he was manipulating Peggy into trusting him by telling her what he felt like she wanted to hear. Based on the previews for future episodes, it looks like Peggy and Howard are going to have it out early so I'm guessing it's not Awful. Maybe just awful.

/history nerd

Thank you! That totally makes sense. Although I chortled at Jarvis having to instruct Howard on how to make a drink. Maybe this is why I thought he lived in the house. Howard probably likes his drinks early.

I'm also just really pleased that my daemon for Jarvis still seems appropriate.

I have a feeling I'm going to be daemon-ing this show in its entirety soon. Um. I also may have imagined Dejeni waving hello to Takeo when Howard first stuck his head out the car door after Peggy knocked out Jarvis.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 7th, 2015 04:04 am (UTC)

I don't think Jarvis is evil but I did wonder if he was manipulating Peggy into trusting him by telling her what he felt like she wanted to hear.


There's our Odd Couple dynamic again. I'm going 'aww, that's nice, they're friends' and you're going 'this must be a trap!'.

Based on the previews for future episodes, it looks like Peggy and Howard are going to have it out early so I'm guessing it's not Awful. Maybe just awful.

Did you get previews? I was watching on the Canadian station and I didn't get previews for future episodes.

Thank you! That totally makes sense. Although I chortled at Jarvis having to instruct Howard on how to make a drink. Maybe this is why I thought he lived in the house. Howard probably likes his drinks early.

It could just be servants' quarters and Jarvis is the only servant, so prefers to call it the Jarvis Residence. Maybe Mrs Jarvis prefers to have it referred to that way. I wonder if we'll see her. She seems a bit mysterious, and I don't remember Jarvis in the comics being married. I wondered if she was a front for something.

I also may have imagined Dejeni waving hello to Takeo when Howard first stuck his head out the car door after Peggy knocked out Jarvis.

Hehe!

Dejeni: Hey, babe, hop in.
Takeo: *eye roll*

And poor Haddie out cold on the ground. I had an image of her sitting primly with her back to Takeo at the diner.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 7th, 2015 04:09 am (UTC)
I'm going 'aww, that's nice, they're friends' and you're going 'this must be a trap!'.

To be fair, my thought was 'please don't let this be a trap!'

Did you get previews? I was watching on the Canadian station and I didn't get previews for future episodes.

We did get previews which featured more ass kicking by Peggy and she and Howard having an argument about Howard having lied to her about something.

I had an image of her sitting primly with her back to Takeo at the diner.

Aw!

I know that it might be Spying 101 but what's more suspicious? Two people at the same table chatting or two people seemingly having a conversation with themselves?
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 7th, 2015 04:17 am (UTC)

To be fair, my thought was 'please don't let this be a trap!'


It's possible it's both. Jarvis trying to worm his way in, while also being concerned for her welfare. I did love his little embarrassed 'oops' reaction when he realized he was fondling her leg.

I also sort of love that he's the hapless damsel in their duo relationship.


We did get previews which featured more ass kicking by Peggy and she and Howard having an argument about Howard having lied to her about something.


Okay, cool. CTV has always been awful about previews. They prefer to show previews for their own shows than the episodes for the following week.

Two people at the same table chatting or two people seemingly having a conversation with themselves?

Maybe you can talk more quietly with something who's sitting with their back to you than to talk across a table to them? Otherwise, I don't know how no one would comment on the fact that these two people come in and sit back to back all the time.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 7th, 2015 04:35 am (UTC)
I also sort of love that he's the hapless damsel in their duo relationship.

Yup! Totally loved that. I also liked how he looked so damn proud of himself when he disabled the car.

Otherwise, I don't know how no one would comment on the fact that these two people come in and sit back to back all the time.

I guess I'll just throw that in with how a truckload of nuclear bombs blew up in the water and it was all okay.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 7th, 2015 04:44 am (UTC)
I also liked how he looked so damn proud of himself when he disabled the car.

I liked his faint worry about Peggy being on top of the car, and sort of the facial expression of wondering whether it would be most polite to keep driving or to stop and allow her to get in. And his hurry back around when he didn't get to open the door for her in time. I'd love this to become a thing for them, where he always tries to get there to open it for her and she always tries to get there before he can.

I guess I'll just throw that in with how a truckload of nuclear bombs blew up in the water and it was all okay.

Science! Or the opposite of it.

I suppose people might assume they were having an affair, and not necessarily doing spy work.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 8th, 2015 05:44 am (UTC)
Hey, random daemon question for the day:

If Jarvis called Tony 'Master Tony', what would Haddie have called Mim? Just Demira? Daemons don't get titles, so I don't know what Haddie might use except her name, but I feel like there should be some sort of distance there in some way.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 8th, 2015 06:08 am (UTC)
Hmm. Good question. I agree that there should be some sort of distance but the only thing I can come up with is that Haddie call her Miss Demira. That doesn't sound completely right but Mistress or Lady Demira sounds worse to me. So maybe Miss?
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 8th, 2015 06:14 am (UTC)
Miss is sort of along the lines of what I was thinking, too, but I don't know if it's normal/common to address a daemon by a title. Like, technically Nemi is Dr. Nemi if Bruce is Dr. Banner, but I can't picture anyone addressing her like that.

But Miss Demira feels like what Haddie would say, to me. Maybe Jarvis and Haddie are just so very British and Polite that Haddie uses titles even if it's not common practice.

My other option would be to have her use Demira, with a thought from Mim that Haddie never calls her Mim, only Demira, and that's sort of how she keeps things formal.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 8th, 2015 06:19 am (UTC)
My other option would be to have her use Demira, with a thought from Mim that Haddie never calls her Mim, only Demira, and that's sort of how she keeps things formal.

I feel like this option would only really highlighted if most of the other daemons in Demira's life called her Mim more so than Demira. But somehow it feels like Haddie being very British and Polite would translate into her using titles even if it isn't the norm. But does this mean Haddie would address Howard and Maria's daemons by titles too?
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 8th, 2015 06:27 am (UTC)

I feel like this option would only really highlighted if most of the other daemons in Demira's life called her Mim more so than Demira.


That's exactly the problem, because Howard and Dejeni don't call her Mim, purposely on my part to show that they aren't very in touch with Tony and Demira.

But does this mean Haddie would address Howard and Maria's daemons by titles too?

And that's the Black Hole. My feeling was that Haddie and Dejeni have been through enough shit together by this point that they're on the formal side of casual terms, even if Howard and Jarvis are still pretty formal with each other. So, I think probably Haddie uses Dejeni, with a 'ma'am' in there. But with Maria, I think Mr Tomor would work, still.

And then the question would be, because Howard is married, would Miss Dejeni have become Mrs Dejeni at some point?

I hate this verse.

Edited at 2015-01-08 06:28 am (UTC)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 8th, 2015 06:51 am (UTC)
I hate this verse.

We've all thought it. But like a cruel mistress, it won't let us go.

Okay, so it sounds like Miss Demira and Mr. Tomor would work. For Dejeni, maybe Haddie only refers to her as "Ma'am." Seeing as how titles are rare amongst daemons, Dejeni would probably always know who was addressing her without Haddie having to say her name. That might get rid of the Miss/Mrs. issue.

EDIT: All this frustration though makes me feel like it can work into the story. Like Haddie switching from Miss Dejeni to Mrs. Dejeni and Dejeni being exasperated. "This would never have happened if you'd just called me by my name from the start, you know."

Edited at 2015-01-08 06:53 am (UTC)
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 8th, 2015 02:41 pm (UTC)
We've all thought it. But like a cruel mistress, it won't let us go.

I love this verse for the creativity, but not for the Black Hole that is adapting things to work with daemons. I had to come up with soccer with daemons for a different fic, and how the rules of that worked.

All this frustration though makes me feel like it can work into the story. Like Haddie switching from Miss Dejeni to Mrs. Dejeni and Dejeni being exasperated. "This would never have happened if you'd just called me by my name from the start, you know

Hee! I like this a lot, actually. I don't know if it'll show up in this fic as Haddie and Dejeni haven't spoken to each other yet, but I really like the idea of Howard having been a bachelor for so long before he married Maria that Haddie has a very hard time wrapping her head around him being married, and keeps calling Dejeni 'Miss' and then being quite ashamed of herself for messing up the title.

"Miss, I mean, Mrs Dejeni, my apologies I--"
"Dejeni is fine, Had, we've been over this for twenty years."
"Yes, ma'am, Miss-Mrs Dejeni, I--"
"Seriously, I'm not the king's daemon, just use my name.
"It's fine, ma'am, I'll get the hang of--"
"I don't want you to get the hang of it, this is the perfect time to get the hang of Dejeni. Alone. Just Dejeni."
"Yes, ma'am. I have a message from Mr. Tomor--"
"Oh, for God's sake--Tomor! Just call him Tomor!"
"I honestly don't think I can do that, ma'am."
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 8th, 2015 11:20 pm (UTC)
Ahahaha! Does Haddie develop a twitch when Dejeni tells her that this confusion with titles has cut down her productivity by 20%? To be polite or efficient? It's a nightmare.

Also, here's a married daemon couple: http://doodoopuppy.tumblr.com/post/36027225834
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 8th, 2015 11:48 pm (UTC)
To be polite or efficient? It's a nightmare.

The Ultimate British Problem. Haddie would probably practice quietly to herself until she's positive that she's using the appropriate title and return with a vengeance. But I like to think on the rare occasion she gets scrambled or upset, she reverts back to 'Miss' and doesn't notice.

Also, here's a married daemon couple.

Awww! I love when animals looks so happy like that. I don't know if they smile like we do, but they just look so content, it's lovely.

Have a dancing Tomor in return. Also, this is pretty much how I picture Benvolio grooving when Jasmine sings.

And here's some stuff I found while you were away:

Very sweet J.A.R.V.I.S headcanon
Probably what happens if you give little!Tony a car set to play with
Relevant to my kid!ficcing interests
and this just made me lol
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 9th, 2015 03:05 am (UTC)
Have a dancing Tomor

Hee! Maybe Howard and Maria are dancing the garden or something.

That JARVIS headcanon is really good. And it totally makes sense and I completely missed that JARVIS was becoming more colloquial as the movies went on.

That last one is so Tony. The meeting is probably telling him how many billions of dollars he may gain or lose and he's busy playing with the latest Cap shield knock off he made.

Edited at 2015-01-09 03:05 am (UTC)
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 9th, 2015 03:31 am (UTC)

Hee! Maybe Howard and Maria are dancing the garden or something.


I have a mini!headcanon that Howard and Maria danced a lot (and Howard did a lot of his wooing of her on the dance floor) and Tony has very clear memories of them dancing in random places, and Maria taught Tony how to dance, and that's why he likes to dance now. Which is part of my headcanon of Tony liking to dance, now that I think about it, because I don't think that's canon.

Speaking of canon, I was trying to find Howard's full name so Maria could Full Name him when she's angry and I found out that Tony's middle name is Edward, not Howard as I had thought. And this upsets my synesthesia because now I have to reevaluate his whole colour scheme. Not to mention derails a conversation in my random scraps of 'Tony and Pepper have children' fic about what they're going to name them.

And it totally makes sense and I completely missed that JARVIS was becoming more colloquial as the movies went on.

I noticed in Iron Man 3 that he seems to have more emotion when he speaks, but wondered if that was Paul Bettany finally getting the hang of what he was supposed to be doing, as he had no clue for the first movie, he was just recording lines as a favour to Jon Favreau. Or maybe the different director asking him to do something different.


That last one is so Tony.


I like to think the difference between Tony and Howard's business style was that Howard kept his boredom internal, whereas Tony was just like 'whee, shiny things!'.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 9th, 2015 03:41 am (UTC)
I have a mini!headcanon that Howard and Maria danced a lot (and Howard did a lot of his wooing of her on the dance floor)

We are of the same mind as I think I made dancing one of Howard's special skills in a character meme awhile back.

I found out that Tony's middle name is Edward, not Howard as I had thought.

Huh. I knew Howard's middle name was Anthony but I never thought that Tony's middle name was Howard. Man, that would be a weird thing to do to your kid. "We have reversed names." But that is annoying if you have to rethink the entire color scheme you have going for them.

I like to think the difference between Tony and Howard's business style was that Howard kept his boredom internal, whereas Tony was just like 'whee, shiny things!'.

Whelp, that's why during meetings, Dejeni is desperately trying to find something interesting to do. I have this image of her rolling around underneath the conference table, trying to find fallen paperclips, coins, and pens to build something. She gets annoyed when the cleaners are too efficient.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 9th, 2015 03:51 am (UTC)
We are of the same mind as I think I made dancing one of Howard's special skills in a character meme awhile back.

I can just totally see Howard slipping into a situation with a girl chatting to someone and the next thing she knows she's dancing with him, and he's all 'smile, charm, smile'.


Huh. I knew Howard's middle name was Anthony but I never thought that Tony's middle name was Howard. Man, that would be a weird thing to do to your kid. "We have reversed names."


I don't know why I thought it was Howard. I think I must have remembered the 'ward' part of it and assumed Howard, as that would make sense. I didn't know about Howard's name until I looked it up today. Howard Anthony Walter, according to wiki.

But that is annoying if you have to rethink the entire color scheme you have going for them.

It takes out green and puts in light blue, which makes his whole name a much lighter hue. And sort of suits him better, really, than the green. It's not a big deal, but...it's hard to explain. I tend to mentally decorate environments to match the colours of a character, so it's like having to redecorate an apartment in my head. Which I am aware is very weird.

I have this image of her rolling around underneath the conference table, trying to find fallen paperclips, coins, and pens to build something. She gets annoyed when the cleaners are too efficient.

That's funny, because in my running away fic (which I'm working on again now that I have some sense of how Jarvis speaks), the first time we see Howard, Dejeni is under the boardroom table, drawing, and when she's upset about Tony being missing, she starts mangling paperclips so her paws have something to do. I like that we're on the same wavelength in our joint daemon custody.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on January 9th, 2015 04:05 am (UTC)
I tend to mentally decorate environments to match the colours of a character, so it's like having to redecorate an apartment in my head. Which I am aware is very weird.

I used to and sometimes still tend to assign genders to numbers. Like to me 27 is a woman. So it's not the same kind of weird, but I can dig weird.

I like that we're on the same wavelength in our joint daemon custody.

It definitely helps when we borrow each others for fics.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on January 9th, 2015 04:13 am (UTC)
So it's not the same kind of weird, but I can dig weird.

I think assigning personalities to things is a form of synesthesia, too. I have colours for almost everything--numbers, months, letters, words, people. I didn't know what wasn't something that everyone did until I read a blog post asking people to participate in a study. Which said I was not a synesthete, but you had to pick the colours from the sort of colour picker they have in graphics programme, with literally every colour in the world on it, and I feel it was more of a case of me not being able to repeatedly pick out the same colour out of ka-trillions than my not having a consistent colour for the same variable. I didn't have the patience to be that exact so I sort of 'went, yeah, that looks about right' each time.

I think it contributes to my love of hoarding pictures for characters and fic. I also think it's what makes it hard for me to pick names for characters sometimes, because I need to match the colour of the name to the colour of the personality and if I don't have a clear idea one colour, it's hard to match it to the other.