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26 September 2014 @ 05:05 pm
Braaaaainnnn....brraaaaaaiinnnnn....  
Am I taking breaks from working on my applications to write fic or am I taking breaks from writing fic to work on my applications? Hm.


I thought one of the bigger challenges of writing a Political Animals/Elementary crossover would be having to weave in a plausible mystery. But sometime last night as I was dragging myself to the library to work, I had a AH! moment where all I had to do was change one thing to the plot and suddenly BOOM! I had a plausible mystery. It felt suitably puzzling so that Sherlock would involve himself and suitably soapy which seemed to be the feel for the Political Animals-verse. It also explained why the fic would be set in New York rather than in Washington DC.

What is now the larger challenge is that to some degree I have to know how politics and politicking works in the US to get a solid feel for the PA characters. It's not a problem with TJ since two years down the line in my story he's not in that field nor was he ever really in it. But Douglas is/was and he's ended up becoming a rather huge part of the story. The issue is that I find politics deathly boring. I have a basic working knowledge of the systems but I have zero clue what sort of jobs former governors, presidents, chief of staff people end up doing once they bow out. I wikipedia'd the lives of the Clintons to try and come up with something but it hasn't been terribly useful. I suppose it would be too ridiculous to say that half the Barrish-Hammond family decided to give up politics and go into the arts or something. The show was ridiculous but even they stuck to some of their guns.

Anyway, I also spent some time revisiting old episodes of Elementary to get a better handle on that world. What's come from that is perhaps me writing a quick oneshot prequel to this crossover fic. It's kind of Sherlock's fault. Dammit, Sherlock.
 
 
 
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on September 27th, 2014 12:14 am (UTC)
I'm glad for the AH moment!

The trick is point of view, right? If it's from Sherlock's point of view, he's going to tune out whenever anyone talks about politics. If it's Joan's, she may well pay more attention to how the family relate to each other than to whatever machinations they're discussing. If it's TJ . . . that boy has the attention of a two-year-old for some things. I think you can get away without knowing a lot about politics, as long as that's not part of the mystery.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 12:23 am (UTC)
The trick is point of view, right?

Hmmm. I guess the fic would be mainly from Joan's POV since she's the link between the two shows for me. I think it's less about a character thinking politics and more me needing to know how certain things in politics works in order to bolster the plot a little.

If it's TJ . . . that boy has the attention of a two-year-old for some things.

It's sad but true. There were more than a few times during my viewing that I kept thinking, "Didn't you just have a conversation about how you were going to do the opposite thing of what you're doing now???"
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 03:41 am (UTC)
American politics baffles me. I literally do not understand how it works as a system at all. I realize I don't live in the country, and maybe Canadian politics is (are?) weird to outsiders, too, but...I don't even understand how you vote and then get results you do from that vote. It seems unnecessarily complicated.

So, good luck!

What's come from that is perhaps me writing a quick oneshot prequel to this crossover fic.

I do that, only they are never quick. I go 'well, I can't really tell how this character's voice works, so let's put him in a different scenario and see how he behaves' and then it's 10,000 words and I don't know how to stop. I seriously just wanted to know how one of the cousins sounded for a Trio story and now he and Sherlock are just yammering away and being sort of bros, and I don't know how that happened.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 03:50 am (UTC)
I don't even understand how you vote and then get results you do from that vote. It seems unnecessarily complicated.

This is why I find politics pointless. I feel like back when I cared even a small amount, I was always like, "But that doesn't seem possible! How did he get voted in??!!" And then I gave up. The system feels overly complicated so that there can be about a million loopholes for politicians to play with.

I do that, only they are never quick.

The "plot" is sort of a prequel to an actual Elementary episode where Joan and Sherlock are at a fancy gala. I mainly tinkered with it to try and get a handle on Joan's voice since Sherlock is being super BFF with me on the writing front. He's so far criticized the food that gets offered at these things and has observed that it's ridiculous that the clothes people are wearing to the event are three times the cost of what they're willing to donate. Joan has so far decided that long dresses are really impractical and has just recognized someone from across the room. We'll see where this goes...
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 04:04 am (UTC)
The system feels overly complicated so that there can be about a million loopholes for politicians to play with.

I want to yell at American politicians a lot. And I don't even live there. They just seem so out of touch with reality and the people, and I don't know who keeps voting for them. And nothing ever seems to get accomplished because one side is doing everything to block the other side, just because they're the other side. It doesn't matter if the policy makes sense or would be good for the country, it's just 'we don't like you, so we don't like your law, neener, neener'.

So far my story consists of Sherlock stopping in at Ly's place during the Hiatus for a bit of a hiding spot and safe haven and Lysander for some reason is a combination of Q, John, and Harry Dresden. He's snarky, and a bit hero worshippy, and casually badass, and keeps calling Sherlock on all his crap, and Sherlock is just like 'I don't know how to respond to this, but I think I like you'. Which is good, because Ly needs some rescuing in the main story, so this gives Sherlock a bit of motivation for why he's working so hard to get him back.

In other news, racoon enjoying a movie.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 04:15 am (UTC)
It doesn't matter if the policy makes sense or would be good for the country, it's just 'we don't like you, so we don't like your law, neener, neener'.

Yup. That's about it in a nutshell.

In other news, racoon enjoying a movie.

I can totally see Howard and Dejeni doing this. I also imagine Howard drinking his way through a movie and Dejeni slooowly slumping over after a bit.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 04:19 am (UTC)
I also imagine Howard drinking his way through a movie and Dejeni slooowly slumping over after a bit.

I really need to write drunk!daemons at some point. I do have a bit of a drunk!Q story that would actually fit in well after the daemon story I just wrote...hmmm...

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 04:24 am (UTC)
Drunk!fics are the best when written well. I'd love to read a drunk!daemon fic. I can imagine poor Efie trying to type or function with her little paws and sort of dazedly tapping at things in random order.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 04:28 am (UTC)
I can imagine poor Efie trying to type or function with her little paws and sort of dazedly tapping at things in random order.

Awww!

Q's actually playing drunken piano in the fic that I've started. I'm picturing Efi walking over the keys and Q yelling at her for ruining the song. Sherlock and Mycroft are there, too; it might be fun to get Tzo and Soka in on the Drunk Brother wrangling action.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 04:37 am (UTC)
Would Soka eventually fall off Mycroft's shoulder or is she still too dignified for such behavior?

Poor Issie. I can imagine all the Avengers drinking and getting all happy/rowdy while she and Steve are stone cold sober. I'm going to guess post-Cap2 Bucky and Shess can't get drunk either so at least they'll have company.

Issie: Remember the one time Steve got drunk?

Shess: Sure. He picked a fight and threw up on the guy before the first punch was even thrown.

Issie: At least he didn't fall down and break a table.

Shess: That doesn't count. Bucky didn't fall down. Someone pushed him onto the table.

Issie: I'm pretty sure that was someone tapping him on the shoulder.

Nemi: Hi guys.

Issie: Hey! Is Bruce not drinking?

Nemi: Just one. We like to keep things small. And we can keep an eye on things.

Mim: *falls into a tumbler*

Issie: Yeah, probably a good idea.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 04:53 am (UTC)
Would Soka eventually fall off Mycroft's shoulder or is she still too dignified for such behavior?

I just had a thought of Soka preferring to be on the ground when Mycroft's drinking, and taking very tentative controlled steps. She only really gets on his shoulder for intimidating purposes, otherwise they tend to be near each other but not touching. She'd be more likely to fall off the arm of his chair.

I wonder what Tzo would be like drunk? Aww, drunken deduction discussion would be adorable.

Sherlock: He has a thing, so he must be that guy!
Tzo: You should look at the wotsit, because it's purple.
Sherlock: No, no, the wotsit is blue, the other thingy is purple, and I don't like it, so I'm going home.
Tzo: Weren't you doing something?
Sherlock: Going home, pay attention!

Mim: *falls into a tumbler*

Issie: Yeah, probably a good idea.


Aww, I'm picturing Nemi very gently carrying Mim to bed when she's had too much, walking on her hind legs with Mim curled up blissfully on her palm.

Mim: S'great party, huh?
Nemi: Yeah, it was a real blast. You okay?
Mim: *wing wave* I love you, dude.
Nemi:Yeah, you're okay.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 04:59 am (UTC)
Deducting under the influence is the best thing series 3, episode 2 ever gave us. Use it!

Aww, I'm picturing Nemi very gently carrying Mim to bed when she's had too much, walking on her hind legs with Mim curled up blissfully on her palm.

Does this mean Bruce is left having to drag passed out Tony to his bed? I'm sure he'd love that. He'd be complaining that Nemi gets a small bird to lift while Bruce has to heave a fully grown man.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 05:06 am (UTC)
Does this mean Bruce is left having to drag passed out Tony to his bed? I'm sure he'd love that. He'd be complaining that Nemi gets a small bird to lift while Bruce has to heave a fully grown man.

Yeah, my mental image was Bruce with Tony's arm slung over his shoulder, dragging him up to bed, and Tony trying to go and science in the lab.

Tony: No, no, man, five more minutes. I have the best idea...
Bruce: Nope, time for bed. You're going to bed.
Tony: *quietly* I don't want to go to bed.




formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 05:13 am (UTC)
Tony: No, no, man, five more minutes. I have the best idea...
Bruce: Nope, time for bed. You're going to bed.
Tony: *quietly* I don't want to go to bed.


Awwww!

Hey, we daemon-ficc'd again. And I realize that I haven't ever considered the daemons for the Elementary verse.

Dammit...
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 05:22 am (UTC)
Oh, man! I'm not caught up enough to daemonize them I don't think. There's probably been character development since I last watched.

For some reason, secretarybird came to mind for Sherlock.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on September 27th, 2014 05:37 am (UTC)
I know I shouldn't be amused because it's kind of scary but I giggled a bit when I read that secretarybirds stun their prey by kicking them. It just sounds so bizarre.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on September 27th, 2014 12:20 pm (UTC)
Hee! Secretarybirds have this lovely combination of looking sort of terrifying, but at the same time, like they're really awkward. Like, they are ninjas but in between just sort of mill about not sure what to do with themselves.