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27 August 2014 @ 11:22 pm
Some Info on Cap 3. Sort of.  
Apparently they already have a release date of May 6, 2016 and the script hasn't even been finalized yet.

The article spoils only for Cap 2.


"Where does [Bucky Barnes] live now? Is he ever going to be acceptable again to Cap in the way he once was, before he was the Winter Soldier?"

Huh. Maybe I'm not understanding these musings properly or I just have severe "Steve Needs to Help Bucky NOW" biased feelings but I think Bucky will always be acceptable to Steve. Sure, not exactly in the same way he once was before the war and all the brainwashing but it's not Steve's remained frozen (sorry for the pun) emotionally and developmentally at where he was before he went into the ice. War's changed both of them and I think Steve would get that. Barring any sort of horrific action Bucky does when he has his own agency again, I see no reason why Steve's morals of what's right and wrong would somehow negatively impact whether Bucky's acceptable to him. Or maybe it's just the word 'acceptable' that I'm not liking very much in this context.

I know it'll never happen but I wouldn't mind Cap 3 or Avengers 3 to be basically this:

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(credit: ninomiy @ tumblr)

Look how happy cartoon!Steve looks watching a movie with best friend! It'd be nice if human!Steve could be happy too. They're probably watching something from Steve's Book of Recommendations. Also, major bonus points to the artist for drawing in those Captain America and Iron Man back cushions. It's the details that make it all amazing.
 
 
 
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 03:50 am (UTC)
Aww! Very cute picture. I like Steve's soda. And the fact that they are ready for action, if anything arises during the movie.

I love how you're like 'angst for everyone! But not Steve Rogers. No angst for Steve Rogers.'
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 03:56 am (UTC)
I love how you're like 'angst for everyone! But not Steve Rogers. No angst for Steve Rogers.'

I seem to be okay with maybe writing angst for Steve Rogers in my fics but I get really sad for him when he gets angst thrown at him in the movies.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 03:59 am (UTC)
Is it the fact that Chris Evans looks like a very sad Labrador when he's upset?
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:00 am (UTC)
Maybe. But only as Steve Rogers. He was sad and angsting all over the place in Snowpiercer and I was just like, "Yeeessss....keep angsting!"
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:01 am (UTC)
Maybe it's just because Steve is a genuinely nice guy and that's rare in a hero character these days, so you just want things to be nice for him because he actually deserves it.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:03 am (UTC)
Yeah, Steve deserves something nice happening to him. I mean, poor guy just wants to do the right thing and sure, sometimes he makes bad choices but most of the time just really crappy things keep getting piled on him.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:09 am (UTC)
I feel like this about Martin Crieff, a little. He tries so hard. I just want him to succeed! I just want good things to happen to him, because he's trying so hard. And I mean, he's annoying and superior and insecure, but he's trying so hard.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:13 am (UTC)
Yes! Poor Martin. Season 1 Martin I felt less sorry for but by season 2 he was trying so hard and he marginally got less annoying. And yes, he tries SO HARD.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:21 am (UTC)
I listened to Series One after not having heard it in quite a while and had genuinely forgotten how annoying he was. And now, by Series 4, my sympathy for him is so great I sometimes feel physically ill with it. John Finnemore is a very talented man, every one of his characters is fully formed and excellent. Even Theresa, who we only know for one episode, has backstory and arc and fleshed out personality. On a half hour radio comedy.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:27 am (UTC)
With the exception of Arthur who just will always be Arthur, it feels like everyone grew a lot over the series run. Even Douglas became way more accepting of Martin's hysteria.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:33 am (UTC)
Probably because, like us, he now knows the source of the hysteria and is a bit sympathetic towards it.

I thought it was funny on Cumberbatch's ALS Ice Bucket challenge, how often he slipped into his Martin voice when doing the comedy bits. Clearly that is his 'hapless' voice.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:36 am (UTC)
I watched BC's bucket challenge only recently and it's so true. His Martin voice is always slightly higher pitched and bordering on panic.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:39 am (UTC)
I'd like to think Martin actually has as deep a voice as BC does, but it comes out higher because he's so tense all the time. I love the high pitched laugh he does when Martin's drunk in Fitton.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:41 am (UTC)
I love the high pitched laugh he does when Martin's drunk in Fitton.

That's one of my favorite moments of the entire series. It's up there with Douglas' Russell Crowe ("Mark me well! AH HAHAHAHA!") and Arthur's "Oh, don't say that, Skip. The Swiss guys will get used to you."
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:47 am (UTC)
My favourite moment is the 'A Man Went to Mow A Meadow' one from Johannesburg.

Martin: Diego, do a cockerel.
Diego: Kikiriki!
Martin: Yep, that's my favourite.

There's something about the delivery of that that's just so satisfied.

I also quite enjoy 'look at my arm, look at my hat!' from Newcastle, even though it wasn't BC playing the part that day.

And Martin trying to make tea for his mother in Wokingham, because that is just what my mother is like and she recognized that when we listened to it.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:50 am (UTC)
I also loved the doctor in "Wokingham" thinking Martin and Caitlyn had come from a fancy dress party. "No, these are our actual jobs."

And Martin hiss-shouting at Carolyn and Douglas that they sound like a couple of broken Speak-N-Spells.

Edited at 2014-08-28 04:50 am (UTC)
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:54 am (UTC)
And Arthur's cheerful being useful while Mrs Crieff tries not to need him to be useful.

"No, these are our actual jobs.

Finnemore said on his blog that he really loved that joke because it was the kind of joke you can only do on radio. We can't see the characters, so we have to pause for a moment to make all the connections (what's Caitlin's job, what's Martin's job, how are they dressed, why is that funny?), which takes the joke up to a new level you wouldn't get on television where it's all there for you to see.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 04:55 am (UTC)
Arthur and Wendy becoming pals is one of the best things. I wouldn't mind a cozy afternoon doing jigsaws with them myself.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 04:59 am (UTC)
I'd be interested to know what sort of dad Mr Crieff really was, since Martin is under the impression that he was a disappointment to him , yet both Simon and Caitlin are as desperate for approval as him, and obviously Wendy isn't indifferent, just a bit scattered.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 05:02 am (UTC)
I got the feeling that Mr. Crieff was slightly detached and it was really Mrs. Crieff who gave the kids what they needed. She struck me as someone who acts a bit scattered but she's really quite shrewd and knows how to make sure her kids can sort of get along and still get what they need from each other.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on August 28th, 2014 05:07 am (UTC)
Basically my Holmes parents, then.

I like how all the Crieff kids are basically in professions that are quite close to what they wanted to be, but aren't exactly it. Simon is a minor government official--he probably wanted to be politician--, Caitlin is a traffic warden--she probably wanted to be detective--, and Martin is probably doing the best being a pilot that doesn't get any money for being a pilot.
aelfgyfu_mead: brilliantaelfgyfu_mead on August 28th, 2014 09:22 pm (UTC)
Yes! I didn't like Martin at all at first but now feel for him quite a bit and am waiting very anxiously for the very last Cabin Pressure: yes, it's "Zurich" (as BH predicted before we even heard the Y episode, I think).
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on August 28th, 2014 09:17 pm (UTC)
Maybe it's just because Steve is a genuinely nice guy and that's rare in a hero character these days, so you just want things to be nice for him because he actually deserves it.
^ This!

Edited at 2014-08-28 09:18 pm (UTC)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 10:22 pm (UTC)
Even the nice nurse who lived next door to him whom he was hoping he could have a low key coffee date with turned out to be a Shield agent. Can't Steve just have one thing that's not connected to his job as Captain America? Maybe he can sign up for an art class or something. Something chill.
aelfgyfu_mead: Winter Soldieraelfgyfu_mead on August 28th, 2014 09:23 pm (UTC)
"acceptable"?! What is this "acceptable"? Steve was ready to let the Winter Soldier pound him to death; I think any re-emergence of Bucky will be quite "acceptable" to Steve!
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on August 28th, 2014 10:21 pm (UTC)
"acceptable"?! What is this "acceptable"?

Yeah, it's the use of 'acceptable' that doesn't sit right with me. It makes it sound like Steve would disapprove of Bucky as he is now versus Steve being really upset of what's been done to his friend.