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02 July 2014 @ 01:21 pm
American Gods - It's Happening Again  
Man, Neil Gaiman has the WORST luck with his book adaptations. But maybe things are turning around a bit. After getting shelved, American Gods is back on the TV adaptation table. And it's being adapted by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green! Fuller, is the showrunner for Hannibal and his involvement would get me excited enough. But Green is the mind behind Heroes and Kings, which has recently re-entered pop culture discourse thanks to Cap 2. I had just pointed out that Kings was the last good inventive show from NBC before Hannibal so I am ALL about this showrunner pairing.

Fuller and Green's aesthetics could be amazing together and work well with Gaiman's novel. Both Hannibal and Kings really tread a fine line between reality and surreal/mysticism without falling over into complete over-pretension territory which I think is the kind of balance you'll need for a story like American Gods. Fuller and Green are also both really good at handling large myth-like story arcs (I'll ignore for a moment that Heroes ultimately became terrible) at least long enough to churn out what I hope will be a limited miniseries. But as the article noted, Fuller's involvement does bring into question if he could do this and still work full time on Hannibal. To this I say I hope then Green does most of the heavy lifting because no way do I want to see a sacrifice in the quality of Hannibal.

Fingers crossed this project makes it to the end. Time to start mentally casting actors for roles because that's always a fun game!
 
 
 
aelfgyfu_mead: sketchaelfgyfu_mead on July 2nd, 2014 07:50 pm (UTC)
I'm afraid to look. I loved Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies but wasn't pleased at plans I heard for what we would have seen later in those shows if they hadn't been canceled. I quit Heroes early in the second season and don't have the stomach for Hannibal. So I have very mixed feelings about Bryan Fuller. All I know of Michael Green is Heroes, which I thought went from exciting and promising to terrible in a surprisingly short time.

Of course, I've also seen Gaiman's own adaptation of Beowulf, which he co-wrote with Roger Avary (and "Anonymous," according to the IMDb, so the original poet gets something like credit). Part of me thinks that perhaps Gaiman deserves some bad adaptations, though I haven't seen any of his books adapted to film.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 2nd, 2014 07:54 pm (UTC)
I quit Heroes early in the second season and don't have the stomach for Hannibal. So I have very mixed feelings about Bryan Fuller. All I know of Michael Green is Heroes, which I thought went from exciting and promising to terrible in a surprisingly short time.

I think the key here is the time frame which is why I hope for a miniseries or a limited show run for American Gods. Both Fuller and Green do well in a short period of time at the very least. The content of Hannibal definitely isn't for everyone but I think the look of it combined with the look Green gives his shows (I'm just going on Heroes and Kings) can be good for this adaptation.

Of course, I've also seen Gaiman's own adaptation of Beowulf, which he co-wrote with Roger Avary (and "Anonymous," according to the IMDb, so the original poet gets something like credit).

It might have been better had the original poet remained completely uncredited given that adaptation.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 3rd, 2014 01:42 am (UTC)
I never made it through American Gods, I don't remember why. Maybe just a little too dark or weird for my tastes. I go through waves of what I can handle and what I can't, and I might have been in a 'nope!' phase at the time. I preferred Anansi Boys, which I think is in the same universe-ish.

Also, I want Good Omens, still. I don't know why people aren't on that. Asa Butterfield is too old for Adam now. I'll have to fancast another small, intense actor. I see a lot of Hiddleston/Cumberbatch castings for Aziraphale and Crowley, and part of me goes 'yes!' and part of me goes 'really?'.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 3rd, 2014 01:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, I do want to know where the Good Omens adaptation is. I would have thought this would almost be the easier story to put on screen.

I see a lot of Hiddleston/Cumberbatch castings for Aziraphale and Crowley, and part of me goes 'yes!' and part of me goes 'really?'.

I can maybe see Cumberbatch as Aziraphale. Hiddleston is too tall for me as Crowley and doesn't quite look like an Aziraphale to me.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 3rd, 2014 02:01 am (UTC)
I can maybe see Cumberbatch as Aziraphale. Hiddleston is too tall for me as Crowley and doesn't quite look like an Aziraphale to me.

I can see Hiddleston being sweet and hapless enough for Aziraphale, but he's too good looking for my mental image. I picture someone with a bit of a stomach, and more like a hipster granddad. I could see Cumberbatch-in-Martin-Crieff mode working.

I just don't know if there's anyone out there that I think could be Crowley. He's just too cool to actually exist, and I have a very vivid image of him. I've never come across anyone I could see working for him. I know Johnny Depp was rumoured back the day, and he's about physically what I would picture, but too droll, I think.

Maybe it needs to be animated. Then we'd just need voices.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 3rd, 2014 02:08 am (UTC)
I just don't know if there's anyone out there that I think could be Crowley. He's just too cool to actually exist, and I have a very vivid image of him.

Yeah, it's weird that I have a really vivid picture of Crowley in mind but there's no actor who translates into that picture.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 3rd, 2014 02:18 am (UTC)
I think I need a sort of Tim Roth-type, who is short and slouchy, but not attractive or dark enough, and too old now. But someone who has that tendency to slouch and come at you at a snakey angle.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 3rd, 2014 02:22 am (UTC)
Yes! The Crowley of my mind is totally slouchy despite the crisp clear lines of his dark suit.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 3rd, 2014 02:33 am (UTC)
I think it's because I have this cover on my version, but Crowley is always hunched into his coat with a fag in his mouth in my mental image of him.

So, I guess this Hiddleston isn't miles off.
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The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 4th, 2014 03:20 am (UTC)
Hey, I did a thing. I have no excuses for it, except that I wanted to see what daemons might look like inserted into scenes. So I did Izzie and Dejeni. It didn't look good with the usual effect, so that's just plain manipulation.

I also did Thor and Loki, with a comicish effect added.

I'll leave now.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 4th, 2014 03:29 am (UTC)
This just maybe me completely projecting, but I feel like the expressions on Howard and Steve's faces are totally mirrored on their daemons. I love how much both Steve and Izzie look like they're Paying Attention.

I like the placement of Thor and Loki's daemons. Loki's looks like it's ready to pounce which is basically what's happening in that scene between Loki and Thor.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 4th, 2014 03:35 am (UTC)
I love how much both Steve and Izzie look like they're Paying Attention.

It's the same photo I almost always use for Issie, with her head moved to look downward, so she's just as alert, just in different direction. I like to think Steve puts Issie up on tables so she can be a part of things, rather than trying to keep up from the floor.

Loki's looks like it's ready to pounce which is basically what's happening in that scene between Loki and Thor.

I feel like Thor is going 'we should do the thing!' and Loki is going 'you should not do the thing!' and Svana is going 'I am indignant also, but we should maybe perhaps not do the thing' and Galdra is going 'no, no, totally do the thing'.

So, we're both projecting, really.

formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 4th, 2014 03:43 am (UTC)
I also love the detail of Dejeni sitting on the suit material Howard's explaining. I can see her being all, "This material will save your human's life! Do you want one?"

I like to think Steve puts Issie up on tables so she can be a part of things, rather than trying to keep up from the floor.

Aw. Steve still very much remembers what it was like to be small and not always being able to see what was going on over people's shoulders.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on July 4th, 2014 03:53 am (UTC)
I also love the detail of Dejeni sitting on the suit material Howard's explaining. I can see her being all, "This material will save your human's life! Do you want one?"

Dejeni: *technobabble*
Issie: So, it stops bullets?
Dejeni: *sighs* Yes. It stops bullets.
Issie: Neat! Can I have one?

Steve still very much remembers what it was like to be small and not always being able to see what was going on over people's shoulders.

And Issie is a bit miffed that he doesn't have to stretch any more and she didn't turn into a Great Dane or something, so she's still trying not to get stepped on.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on July 4th, 2014 04:03 am (UTC)
Dejeni: *technobabble*
Issie: So, it stops bullets?
Dejeni: *sighs* Yes. It stops bullets.
Issie: Neat! Can I have one?


Hee hee hee!!

she didn't turn into a Great Dane or something, so she's still trying not to get stepped on.

She probably glowers a lot until Steve lifts her up so she can see.
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