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06 June 2014 @ 10:32 pm
Get It Together, Steve Carls- I Mean, Tumblr!  
I ventured back into the Night Vale tag on Tumblr to try and locate a few photos from the live show. But I rapidly had to leave because sadly but not shockingly, some fans have lost their collective minds over something and have taken to Twitter to engage the writers.

Anyway, I was able to find some photos of that one part which had me laughing rather hysterically.


Cecil is totally not into this:
(photo credit: mayuna4891 on Tumblr)


He's even less into this:
(photo credit: cinema-chimera on Tumblr)


But there was at least one moment Cecil Palmer and Steve Carlsberg agreed on something.
(photo credit: ringasunn on Tumblr)

 
 
 
X-parrotxparrot on June 7th, 2014 11:10 am (UTC)
I should've been in bed hours ago and should definitely not be commenting now but O M GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD CECIL'S FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!

And both their faces with Kevin - omg Kevin (R. Free) I <3333 you you are so faboo! (Kevin not-R-Free just terrifies me!!)

Thank you so for braving tumblr to find these gems!!!

(is the twitter thing the argument that they are not allowed to ever do anything bad with Cecil/Carlos because it would ruin their status as queer icons, or something else? oh this fandom...I admit to morbid fascination with it in all its overwrought passion...)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 7th, 2014 02:33 pm (UTC)
O M GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD CECIL'S FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!

He also shook his head A LOT while Steve squeezed him. :D

is the twitter thing the argument that they are not allowed to ever do anything bad with Cecil/Carlos because it would ruin their status as queer icons, or something else?

Yeeess. On one hand, I do sort of agree that Joseph Fink's response on Twitter was a little defensive, particularly compared to Jeffrey Cranor's. But on the other hand, I do sort of agree that this is their story and their intellectual property. Not having a bunch of people tell them how to write is precisely the reason why they chose to do a podcast where they could have complete creative control.

And to be fair to Fink (whose non-Night Vale related tweets I've found obnoxious in the past), he's probably a little sick of having to deal with the fan hysteria. No one knows yet what's in store for the characters ultimately. Jumping down the writers throats for throwing conflict into a relationship is a premature action. And I get his exasperation that because fans are fans of the characters, they feel some sense of entitlement toward how the story should be told.

Fink responded by asking people to think of one interesting couple (queer or straight) that has not faced some sort of conflict in their story. And I think that's fair. And again, we don't know what's in store for Carlos and Cecil. The idea that they must be perfect and happy 24/7 in order to be queer icons is as limiting as the tragic queer couple trope.

From the start, Fink and Cranor have always written Carlos and Cecil as a regular couple who happen to be gay. Regular couples don't live perfect lives.
X-parrotxparrot on June 7th, 2014 10:41 pm (UTC)
May they never explain why Cecil hates Steve and just continue on like this, because it's glorious!

...As for the fandom, yeeeeeah. I haven't been on their Twitters that much, but from them, and the openings to the show, I get the feeling Joseph Fink is a bit of a troll. Which I don't mean as an insult, really...but one of the reasons he likes writing fiction is that he likes to rile people up a bit. And on Twitter he's more direct about that.

In this case, he may have crossed a line...otoh, I think some fans were being pretty unreasonable. From the bit I saw, it looked like a few people were actually pushing for JF and JC to outright promise that they won't break up Cecil/Carlos and, uh, no, they can't do that! No writer is going to give away their story's end just because people cry representation! And yeah, if making characters good representative icons means that you can only tell one story about them, that's shooting yourself in the foot, it means no one is going to want to tell stories with them, and keeps the characters from becoming "real people", rather than just agendas.

Also, I still personally find something awkward about fans calling on noble social causes like representation to defend their favorite ship. Not that I think they're lying when they say they identify with the chars...but they're not being entirely honest to argue like that's the only reason they care. And implying that their reasons for supporting C/C are totally righteous and justifiable because it's so unique and representative, while most other shipping fans are just silly teenagers who shouldn't care so much because hey, there's always more ships out there - that grates on me (even though I know it's largely because most of the WTNV fans are teens themselves, I think for some this is one of their first fandoms, so of course it's different and special and better than anything else out there!)
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 7th, 2014 03:05 pm (UTC)
Just swooping into commiserate about the tumblr mania. The Tom Hiddleston tag, my happy place to be happy, has been in an uproar since Tuesday, when some restaurant in Bora Bora posted a picture on their Facebook of Tom with a woman and referenced her as his wife and called them Mr and Mrs Hiddleston. Which, like, whatever, first of all, and second of all...I'm pretty sure there's some mistake going on, because I don't know if you would painstakingly keep your marriage secret and then let some random restaurant post about it on Facebook.

But whatever. Logic need not apply here. There has been much wringing of hands and telling of people to calm the fuck down, and I just want gifs of Tom being happy. I did not sign on for this drama.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 7th, 2014 03:09 pm (UTC)
I vaguely remember Hiddleston fans having a meltdown awhile back because he was photographed with a woman whom the Internet speculated was his girlfriend at the time. The amount of entitled rage that came out from fans was a little disturbing. I mean...they DO know they don't own Tom Hiddleston, right?
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 7th, 2014 03:20 pm (UTC)
I vaguely remember Hiddleston fans having a meltdown awhile back because he was photographed with a woman whom the Internet speculated was his girlfriend at the time.

I think this might be the same woman? It's the same woman from Wimbledon. According to the fans. The picture is blurry, and some people think it might actually be his sister, but some people think it's totally not his sister. The main guess seems to be Jane Arthy, who is the Wimbledon woman

The amount of entitled rage that came out from fans was a little disturbing. I mean...they DO know they don't own Tom Hiddleston, right?

I'm not entirely sure they do. To be fair, I've been more posts asking people to calm down than I've seen posts of people freaking out, but what really disturbs me is how quickly people have started calling her a whore, and him a whore, and one person referred to her as 'taunting' fans, which, having just checked Jane Arthy's Twitter, she hasn't posted since Apr 30, so I don't know how standing a restaurant is taunting...God, it's just...I've had to put people on ignore. I've never done that before.

My favourite argument for her being a bad person is that clearly she has low self-esteem for allowing herself to be in a relationship with a man who won't let her be seen in public with him, and I'm like...'do you see a little about why he might be reluctant to do that?'
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 10th, 2014 02:56 am (UTC)
So, I was playing with my tablet for practice purposes, and I seem to have accidentally tea partied.



Faun!Whishaw is off getting the tea cakes ready, because I cannot manip a faun. Yet.

Please be aware that the cottage background is not mine, but from here. The rest is my photoblending.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 10th, 2014 03:03 am (UTC)
!!!

Awwwwww!!! They're adorable! Otter!Batch and Hiddleston!Meerkat are clearly about to have a lively conversation.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 10th, 2014 03:07 am (UTC)
I'm quite pleased with the animals, I have to confess. Once I moved their heads a little and made Hiddleston!kat smile, they started to look like proper personalities.

When giraffe!Smith comes by, they open the window so he can stick his head through and join the party.

Otter!Batch and Hiddleston!Meerkat are clearly about to have a lively conversation.

Probably about Shakespeare.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 10th, 2014 03:15 am (UTC)
When giraffe!Smith comes by, they open the window so he can stick his head through and join the party.

He'll have his bowtie and hipster glasses.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 10th, 2014 03:35 am (UTC)
He'll have his bowtie and hipster glasses.

Well, there's my next project...

The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 11th, 2014 03:02 am (UTC)
Hipster Giraffe.

I'm sorry. People really shouldn't let me have access to stuff. I don't do anything useful with it.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 11th, 2014 05:10 pm (UTC)
Self satisfied hipster giraffe is self satisfied! I love how the shape of his ears and the bowtie are the same.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 11th, 2014 05:14 pm (UTC)
I love how the shape of his ears and the bowtie are the same.

I'd like to say that was purposeful, but I only just noticed when you pointed it out. My brain is cleverer than I.

Is it wrong that I now want to put an otter in a patented Cumberbatch Bad Hat and a meerkat in reading glasses?
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 11th, 2014 05:15 pm (UTC)
Is it wrong that I now want to put an otter in a patented Cumberbatch Bad Hat and a meerkat in reading glasses?

Does TH wear reading glasses? Although either way it's not wrong. Not wrong in the least.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 11th, 2014 05:18 pm (UTC)
He wears quite cute driving glasses. I suppose they're maybe for distance and not close up. Maybe a waistcoat would be more identifiable as a TH trademark.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 11th, 2014 05:28 pm (UTC)
The waistcoat and smile is TH's trademarks.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 11th, 2014 05:32 pm (UTC)
Trufax. Luckily meetkats like to smile. In fact, meerkats always look as though they're really happy to see you and hope that you'll be best friends, and maybe come to their den for dinner with their family--no, don't bring anything, you're the guest.

Which I suppose is appropriate for TH's spirit animal.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 11th, 2014 06:20 pm (UTC)
and hope that you'll be best friends, and maybe come to their den for dinner with their family--no, don't bring anything, you're the guest.

So after we finally get this animal tea party, the sequel will be everyone going over to Hiddle!Meerkat's place for dinner.
The Writer They Call Tayawanderingbard on June 11th, 2014 08:37 pm (UTC)
So after we finally get this animal tea party, the sequel will be everyone going over to Hiddle!Meerkat's place for dinner.

Pretty much. Otter!batch's den is just around the riverbend in Animal London from Hiddles!meerkat's den, so maybe they could plan something together to thank faun!Whishaw for all the tea.
X-parrotxparrot on June 11th, 2014 10:34 pm (UTC)
Ahhh found another pic in semi-animated form! :D

http://ringasunn.tumblr.com/post/88438026349/i-figured-out-what-to-do-with-all-my

(is it Sunday yet? Why isn't it Sunday yet?!)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 11th, 2014 10:48 pm (UTC)
Hahaha! The one of Steve hugging Cecil never gets old.

Is this episode going to be broken up into two parts to be posted two weeks apart from each other? I hope not. I can't imagine where an appropriate place will be for a break.
X-parrotxparrot on June 11th, 2014 11:44 pm (UTC)
I think either JF or JC was saying something of the sort on Twitter, since it's such a long ep? But I want it all now~~~~! (and I was wondering how splitting it up would work with the Weather...?)

...annnnnd I nearly asked for a spoiler so I'm gonna stop this comment here (I don't want spoilers, I just want to knoooow!)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on June 12th, 2014 01:06 am (UTC)
and I was wondering how splitting it up would work with the Weather...?

From what I remember, the weather came much later into the episode rather than at the halfway mark.

...annnnnd I nearly asked for a spoiler so I'm gonna stop this comment here (I don't want spoilers, I just want to knoooow!)

You're almost there! It's almost Sunday! Soon you will know all! (or at least half of all).

But, uhm...feel free to ask if the part of you that wants to know wins over the part that doesn't want spoilers.