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16 May 2013 @ 11:08 pm
Elementary Season Finale  
Under the cut is a MAJOR, MAJOR SPOILER for the season finale of Elementary.



THEY ACTUALLY MADE IRENE ADLER THE MORIARTY OF THIS SHOW!

THEY ACTUALLY WENT THERE.

I have to think on a little if this upsets me or makes me happy.
 
 
 
Dusty: ST-VOY. Lovely is what I aim fordustlines on May 17th, 2013 04:11 am (UTC)
IT'S THE THING!! THEY DID THE THING! THE THING WE SAID THEY SURELY WOULDN'T BE CRAFTY ENOUGH TO DO!!

'Scrib, in between the incredible Supernatural finale, the incredible things that happened in Elementary tonight, and the Star Trek movie I'm going to see tomorrow, I am nothing but a puddle of dopamine and rainbows.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on May 17th, 2013 05:01 am (UTC)
Between this, Supernatural, the latest episode of Hannibal (where Raphael from SPN showed up in the greatest guest character EVER!!), AND my also seeing the Star Trek movie tomorrow, I'm about to have rainbows and unicorns bust out of my chest!!
Dusty: Dresden Files. Harry + Booksdustlines on May 17th, 2013 05:05 am (UTC)
OH MY GOD, WE'RE TURNING INTO THE EMBODIMENT OF PURE JOY. This seems dangerous. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS POWER? ASIDE FROM ME ABUSING CAPSLOCKS A LOT, I MEAN.

And *squee!* 'Scriiiiib, our fandoms are great places to be right now. Have you heard anything about Hannibal being renewed? I haven't looked, but my fingers are crossed for you anyway!

Edited at 2013-05-17 05:06 am (UTC)
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on May 17th, 2013 05:18 am (UTC)
OH MY GOD, WE'RE TURNING INTO THE EMBODIMENT OF PURE JOY.

I'm still not sure if I'm happy or upset about the Irene is Moriarty reveal. But I'm over the moon about how the Holmes and Watson partnership in the end. Bees! The bees!!! *vomits confetti and joy*

Have you heard anything about Hannibal being renewed?

Not yet. I think NBC was waiting to see how the latest episode does in the ratings. As it went up against the Elementary season finale along with the Scandal finale, I'm a bit fearful it'll get cancelled. It's Dresden Files all over again! They drag it out for months and in the end it's nothing but a huge slice of Disappointment Cake with Boohoo Frosting!!!

Sorry, I'm doing excessive exclamation point usage right now.
Dusty: ST-TOS. Kirk. Beauty of the Beholderdustlines on May 17th, 2013 05:44 am (UTC)
I rather liked her! Granted, I missed the first 30 minutes of the show because I didn't remember there were going to be different hours for it, so if I missed something pivotal, let me know! I suppose the show simply has a habit of soothing my fears of what kind of roles characters will play in overall context (plus, I think she's going to escape and be all clever doing so, so her being captured at the end means nothing to me).

And BEES! Oh goodness, I love how many of my fandoms have loved bees. As a former beekeeping child, it makes me feel all warm inside. He named the new species after her! *squeaks at the cuteness*

It's Dresden Files all over again! They drag it out for months and in the end it's nothing but a huge slice of Disappointment Cake with Boohoo Frosting!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! Oh wow, I just choked on my noodles, reading that. "Boohoo Frosting" should be on the McDonalds dollar menu, for whining children. XD

I have a question: how much is Hannibal like or not like Dexter? Because I somewhat loathe Dexter as "confusingly glorified serial killer," and I think that's part of my trepidation here.
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on May 17th, 2013 05:55 am (UTC)
Elementary has done a great job with revamping all canon characters. I feel like they could have done better with the Irene Adler character but they've so far done the best re-imaging so I'll give them some slack.

"Boohoo Frosting" should be on the McDonalds dollar menu, for whining children. XD

Boohoo Frosting, topped with a Man Up candle.

how much is Hannibal like or not like Dexter? Because I somewhat loathe Dexter as "confusingly glorified serial killer," and I think that's part of my trepidation here.

I've never seen Dexter so I guess it'll depend on what you mean by "confusingly glorified serial killer."

The show is shot in a way so that all the murders are presented in an almost artistic layout. It's all incredibly gruesome but the hypersaturated colors and the camera angles makes some of the crime scenes like a work of art. So in that way the show is sort of making the murders glorified in how horrific they are. And all the food Hannibal prepares from people are shot like something out of gourmet food magazines.

Hannibal as a character, I think is starting to get glorified by the fans of the show. It seems to take people a few minutes to remember that he's a serial killer and a CANNIBAL. But in a way I guess that's the point of Hannibal Lecter as a character. He outwardly looks incredibly civilized, cultured, and elegant. And he is. It just hides a seething mass of awfulness underneath.

The show has so far been pretty good about demonstrating this contrast. The first half of the show focused a lot on all the beauty and elegance around Hannibal. But finally we're starting to see him do what he does on his off time and those scenes have never made me think, "Oh, how classy" but rather, "OMG THIS IS CREEPY AS ALL HELL."

So uh...in answer to your question: I don't know?
Dusty: SPN. Happy Subtletiesdustlines on May 17th, 2013 05:51 am (UTC)
By the way, you silly goose, I am an exclamation point-aholic. I need them to LIVE!!!! The more you use, the higher my quality of life. NO APOLOGIES FOR EXCLAMATION POINTS!!

Ahem. Yes, carry on. *nods*
aelfgyfu_mead: Joan Watsonaelfgyfu_mead on May 17th, 2013 11:16 pm (UTC)
It makes me happy! I hope you will eventually decide that it makes you happy too, but it makes me happy! I was considering getting mad at the show for fridging Irene before we'd even met her—in fact, I previously had been angry—but I decided to wait and see how the episode unfolded. I was afraid she was in league with Moriarty somehow, but I didn't think she would really be Moriarty!

They took all these little bits of BBC Sherlock—Irene faking her own death, Irene being a bit too hung up on Sherlock, Irene working for Moriarty, Moriarty being obsessed with Sherlock—and they made it into something much better plotted and more satisfying. I love BBC Sherlock (even though I think I shouldn't), and I love Martin Freeman's John Watson, but I still think "A Scandal in Belgravia" was disastrously badly written, and Moriarty was problematic. Elementary did a whole lot better, and Joan Watson Wins Everything, and I am very happy.

During the episode, I kept thinking they were falling into clichés. Moriarty kidnapped Irene and reprogrammed her to distract Holmes? "I read this," I told Brilliant Husband. "It's a fanfic. In fact, it's a bunch of fanfics in a number of fandoms." Sherlock beat up the dealer instead of just paying for his drugs? "Why on earth would he do that?" I asked, but it was BH who figured out the OD was a fake. Everything I started to chalk up to bad writing turned out to have sufficient reason behind it.

Yay!

How long do we have to wait for s2?
formerly lifeinsomniacjoonscribble on May 18th, 2013 02:54 am (UTC)
I've actually come around to this. After it was pointed out to me how it was actually Joan who defeated Irene, the whole thing settled down for me.

I think my problem in general with re-imaginings for Irene Adler is that they always seem to fail to capture her as an honorable person who was intelligent enough to elegantly outwit Holmes. Elementary did a nice job of giving Irene her own sense of agency and brilliance. I guess I just wish they'd kept in her being honorable as that was a big part of her original character. So a part of me will always be dissatisfied. But with that in mind, I very much applaud Elementary for not reducing her in order to elevate Sherlock.
aelfgyfu_meadaelfgyfu_mead on May 18th, 2013 05:03 pm (UTC)
I would have liked to have an honorable Irene, but then of course she couldn't be Moriarty, because there's no honor in many of Moriarty's schemes. I'll settle for Irene as criminal mastermind instead! If we have to have a Moriarty (and I have problems with a supervillain obsessed with the hero), I'd rather we get a new take like this.